Re: Play along TPTK against 3bettor and unknown/fish
 

Ok, that was my plan. SB goes "argh... JJ," then folds.

(after the river, he typed "lol" about 50 times, so I believe him).

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (11.5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero checks.

Do I actually have a value bet here?

Re: Play along TPTK against 3bettor and unknown/fish
 

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Ok, that was my plan. SB goes "argh... JJ," then folds.

(after the river, he typed "lol" about 50 times, so I believe him).

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (7.5 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

River: (11.5 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB checks, Hero checks.

Do I actually have a value bet here?

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I think you do versus this opponent but I curl in a ball and check here unless I have seen this person raise or call down with Q high or something stupid. Or I bet if I see that this person goes to showdown lots and loses and I have enough hands from the player. WtS% &lt; 40 is a bet here IMHO.

Good thing we got SB to fold.

Re: Play along TPTK against 3bettor and unknown/fish
 

FLOP: 3bet

TURN: If you had three bet the flop and SB bet out the turn, I would call and fold to a river bet UI. The way you played it, I call but am not so sure if I should call another bet on the river.