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Karak567 12-29-2005 03:55 AM

Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
I have a great read on the villain.

He loves to overbet flops that looked like they missed people all-in.

Example of a hand villain played.

UTG raises to $8 preflop (this is NL200), all folds to villain in SB who calls, BB folds.

Flop comes KQ4 rainbow.

Villain checks, UTG bets pot which is like 19ish, villain goes all in for 300 dollars, UTG calls with QK.

There were SEVERAL hands like this.

Knowign that, I had been very tight recently (although had been LAG before) and this board is VERY coordinated.

Basically what I am asking, is this post a bad beat post or a bad play post?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

BB ($414.76)
UTG ($272.98)
Hero ($229.96)
CO ($217)
Button ($240)
SB ($936.86)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Villain bets 10, hero raises to 35, villain insta pushes.

billyjex 12-29-2005 05:05 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
bad beat post

12-29-2005 05:33 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
Now you have another great read - villain likes to call with suited connectors in order to [censored] people over postflop. I lose my stack here, but just once.

Why is the hottie X-ed in your avatar?

Lucky 12-29-2005 05:59 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
It doesnt really look like to you missed to villian, does it? you raised pf, he bet out over half pot and you put in a decent raise.

How donkish has he been? If he's been goin nuts, i call here. If you saw one hand like the one you listed, i can find a fold.

Karak567 12-29-2005 06:03 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
He was going nuts.

Fish1000 12-29-2005 06:06 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
I think I fold here. There are way too many hands that are beating you. In the previous example that you showed, the winner had top two pair. Your hand is nowhere near this strong. Also it would be helpful for your read if you knew what the villain pushed with (in the example). If villain is playing this way, you should catch him again sooner than later. fold.

Karak567 12-29-2005 06:11 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I think I fold here. There are way too many hands that are beating you. In the previous example that you showed, the winner had top two pair. Your hand is nowhere near this strong. Also it would be helpful for your read if you knew what the villain pushed with (in the example). If villain is playing this way, you should catch him again sooner than later. fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh man I didn't even realize I forgot to post results for my read hand. Villain had 66

12-29-2005 07:10 AM

Re: Can I drop my KK here given this read?
 
Hard decision, he might push with an open ended straight draw which is more likely than a set. He obviously hasn't hit the straight or he'd milk u. So the only 2 hands are the draw, the set, or 2 pair. 2 of the hands have u beat and 1 u are a 2-1 favorite. (I don't think he is gonna bluff all in after u raise PF and raise his flop bet on that board, even a maniac has limits) but given the stack sizes, and the action I'd have to fold. If you had less money on the table I'd call.


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