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ZebraAss 02-19-2005 05:15 PM

Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter

SB (t1230)
BB (t700)
UTG (t1750)
MP1 (t1610)
Hero (t1105)
CO (t935)
Button (t670)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t90</font>, Hero calls t90, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t60, UTG calls t60.

Flop: (t375) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t30</font>, UTG calls t30, MP1 calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t300</font>, BB calls t270, UTG folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t1035) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks. Hero is All-in. BB calls

River: (t1655) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1655

Phil Van Sexton 02-19-2005 05:25 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
What would I have done?

1. Call pre-flop.
2. Push on the flop.
3. Lose.
4. Make post asking if I played it right.

btw - I don't think your play was that bad.

ZebraAss 02-19-2005 05:43 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
No...I didnt lose.

But I didnt know what to bet on the flop. I wanted to know what others would have done.

johnnybeef 02-19-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
fold preflop, there is no reason to make difficult decisions on the flop in the second level.

ZebraAss 02-19-2005 05:49 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
dude...post flop play.

Bigwig 02-19-2005 06:01 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
You don't fold 99 for that raise (90) with 1100 chips, and position on the raiser. Especially since you're likely to have other callers and multi-way pot. The implied odds are too good.

You played it just fine, BTW. Maybe push on the flop.

johnnybeef 02-19-2005 06:17 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
[ QUOTE ]
You don't fold 99 for that raise (90) with 1100 chips, and position on the raiser. Especially since you're likely to have other callers and multi-way pot. The implied odds are too good.

You played it just fine, BTW. Maybe push on the flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

it can be played either way preflop, its a matter of style. i am extremely weak tight for the first few levels and i was putting in my input about how id play. as for pushing on the flop, what are you trying to gain by this? winning a small pot at the risk of your entire stack? sngs begin at level 3/4. wait for then to start playing poker.

adanthar 02-19-2005 06:22 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
[ QUOTE ]
it can be played either way preflop, its a matter of style. i am extremely weak tight for the first few levels and i was putting in my input about how id play. as for pushing on the flop, what are you trying to gain by this? winning a small pot at the risk of your entire stack? sngs begin at level 3/4. wait for then to start playing poker.

[/ QUOTE ]

Every part of your post is seriously flawed. Sorry.

SNG's are not 'won on the bubble' any more than they are 'won at level 1'. They are won when you collect all of the other people's chips, and this sure seems like a good time.

(I play it exactly the same. He doesn't have an 8 and probably knows you don't.)

microbet 02-19-2005 06:57 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
Did he have QK or AQ?

Phil Van Sexton 02-19-2005 06:57 PM

Re: Another bad play....how do you play it.
 
Let me explain why I push on the flop.

- 3 people have already put money in on the flop. They like this flop. If you push, people will think you are bluffing and call you with Jx, Qx, or just about anything. No need to fool around.

- When you bet 300 and BB calls, now the other 2 players have to call 270 to see the turn in a 1000+ pot. Suddenly, they have the implied odds to call with Qx, especially AQ.

I'd rather push and let 1 player make a big mistake. If they all fold, that's fine too since the pot is big already.


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