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_Kevin_ 11-12-2005 03:04 PM

OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
I only had 9 hands at this table and no real meaningful reads. Both villians seemed reasonable based on the few hands I've seen. PF seems completely standard. The flop, turn and river decisions seemed marginal. I considered folding the flop since 2 of my outs put 3 flush cards out, 2 others gave me a 1 card straight. This seemed a little weak getting 6:1 but is certainly marginal at best. I feel like I should have bet/raised somewhere (if I didn't fold) but it wasn't clear where. Did I completely butcher this? Comments on all streets welcome.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: 10 BB

Vote4Pedro 11-12-2005 03:09 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
Calling the flop is fine w/ your straight draw + BDFD...

I'm a fan of turn donkage

jaxUp 11-12-2005 03:19 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
[ QUOTE ]
Calling the flop is fine w/ your straight draw + BDFD...

I'm a fan of turn donkage

[/ QUOTE ]

why do you like a turn donk? What's your plan if we get raised? I'm not sure what I like yet.

milesdyson 11-12-2005 03:24 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
i think our options are

bet/call turn, check/call river. this line looks like a flush or straight, so you may be getting raised on this turn most often by flushes than anything else.

or check/call turn, bet/call river. this line does not look like you made a flush, and the river may be raised by hands that raised the flop.

Vote4Pedro 11-12-2005 03:27 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
I dont know...I guess I just see this turn getting checked through too many times, and I wouldnt want a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] getting a free one...

IF raised, I call turn and check/call any non [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] river

numeri 11-12-2005 03:29 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
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I dont know...I guess I just see this turn getting checked through too many times, and I wouldnt want a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] getting a free one...

IF raised, I call turn and check/call any non [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] river

[/ QUOTE ]
Those were my thoughts. I like miles' check/call turn and bet/call river line as well. Only because we're more likely to get raised by non-flush hands with the 2nd line.

Stealthy 11-12-2005 03:50 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
*grunch*

Pre-flop - yep
Flop - I can't find a raise here at all.
Turn - I lead or check-raise but am definately doing 1 or the other I NEVER call here. Check-raise looks best as any single diamond held by the BB he has to call 2 for to hit. If 3 bet I call and then ..
... River - I always lead this river and plan to just call any raise.

11-12-2005 05:48 PM

Re: OESD from SB with multiple marginal decisions
 
*grunch*

Bet the turn.


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