NL Tourn. Rules?
 

All action is PreFlop

Two MP limpers. SB raises. BB reraises all in for less than SB's orginal raise. Two MP limpers call. Can SB raise again here?

Does the all in reraise have to be completed for the orginal raiser to raise again? If so when is it considered completed?

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

Most casinos use the rule that only a full bet (at least as big as the last raise in that round) reopens the betting to a player who has already acted. In this case SB may not reraise here. This is the rule used by the Tournament Directors Association.

I know of one casino that uses the rule that a bet that is 1/2 (or more) of the last raise reopens the betting (this rule is pretty much the standard rule for Limit)

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

Here's what Robert's Rules says:
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2. All bets must be at least equal to the minimum bring-in, unless the player is going all-in. (A straddle bet sets a new minimum bring-in, and is not treated as a raise.)

3. All raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise on that betting round, except for an all-in wager. A player who has already checked or called may not subsequently raise an all-in bet that is less than the full size of the last bet or raise. (The half-the-size rule for reopening the betting is for limit poker only.)

4. “Completing the bet” is a limit poker wager type only, not allowed at big-bet poker. For example, if a player bets $100 and the next player goes all-in for $140, a player wishing to raise must make the total bet at least $240 (unless going all-in).

5. Multiple all-in wagers, each of an amount too small to qualify as a raise, still act as a raise and reopen the betting if the resulting wager size to a player qualifies as a raise.

Example: Player A bets $100 and Player B raises $100 more, making the total bet $200. If Player C goes all in for less than $300 total (not a full $100 raise), and Player A calls, then Player B has no option to raise again, because he wasn't fully raised. (Player A could have raised, because Player B raised.)

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Therefore, SB cannot reraise here.

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

If the all in isn't even as big as the raise before him, he's not even fully calling the SB raise, so the SB definitely can raise again; in fact he still doesn't owe anything as the BB didn't raise...

Unless of course your post meant the BB raised over the SB but not as much as the SB raised, then follow Roberts Rules,

JMB

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

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All action is PreFlop

Two MP limpers. SB raises. BB reraises all in for less than SB's orginal raise. Two MP limpers call. Can SB raise again here?

Does the all in reraise have to be completed for the orginal raiser to raise again? If so when is it considered completed?

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No he cannot re-raise again. Must be a full bet according to "Robert's" Rules

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

Not only can SB *not* raise (he'd be raising himself), but NO ONE can raise. Everyone else can either call or fold.

edit: kerduh on me, explanation is appropriate even though it's already been said.

If it's not a legal raise then the partial raise closes all action. This is in effect on all streets.

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

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Not only can SB *not* raise (he'd be raising himself), but NO ONE can raise. Everyone else can either call or fold.

edit: kerduh on me, explanation is appropriate even though it's already been said.

If it's not a legal raise then the partial raise closes all action. This is in effect on all streets.

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NO! NO! NO! NO!

The partial reraise does not close the betting to the players who had not yet acted on the SBs raise.

The partial raise does not reopen betting to a player who has already acted on the last bet or raise, but it does not close the betting to a player who has not yet acted on the last full bet or raise.

Re: NL Tourn. Rules?
 

whoops, you are correct...


Robert's 14-3
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All raises must be equal to or greater than the size of the previous bet or raise on that betting round, except for an all-in wager. A player who has already checked or called may not subsequently raise an all-in bet that is less than the full size of the last bet or raise. (The half-the-size rule for reopening the betting is for limit poker only.)



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emphasis mine. Sorry guys.