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emil3000 06-05-2005 02:24 PM

Got a valuebet here?
 
Caveat: I suck at shorthanded, but I want to get better, so I played 2,5k hands of 5/10, owned, decided they suck too hard and moved up.

Opponent is 38/22/2, i.e overaggro. Got a thin, or maybe not so thin valuebet on this river? And how were my other streets?

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (7 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

dhaimon 06-05-2005 02:35 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
Doubt it, the river check is probably to induce and/or stop flushes from raising.

You played this very much like a flush draw.

I'd check.

wheelz 06-05-2005 03:25 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
Since the flush draw got there, I don't see how many worse hands are calling.

And I play it the same

spamuell 06-05-2005 03:49 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
I'd bet. Overaggro opponents are usually pretty suspicious and he's probably calling with A-high here. And I don't see an overaggro opp checking a nine or an overpair on this river. He probably has 55, 66 or AK-AT which was suspicious of your flop raise on this drawy board and he'll call the river.

emil3000 06-05-2005 06:04 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
2-1 for checking. keep it coming guys.

etizzle 06-05-2005 06:10 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
I check it, it looks like a 9 scared of one card straight or flush.

spamuell 06-05-2005 09:44 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
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2-1 for checking. keep it coming guys.

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Who cares about how many people are in favour of a particular move? Most players suck (and I do too so I'm not just saying this because I'm in the minority here).

I don't see why my reasons for betting are wrong here, I don't think an overaggro opponent is checking a 9 or better on the river here.

Cactus Cactus 06-05-2005 09:51 PM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
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2-1 for checking. keep it coming guys.

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Who cares about how many people are in favour of a particular move? Most players suck (and I do too so I'm not just saying this because I'm in the minority here).

I don't see why my reasons for betting are wrong here, I don't think an overaggro opponent is checking a 9 or better on the river here.

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- I think that this quote sums it up. I see plays like this with AK AQ or a smaller pair. I've played SO many of these 10-20 short games at party poker. By FAR the correct play is to bet

emil3000 06-06-2005 04:47 AM

Results
 
He had A4 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], mhig. Also we've learned that most people are stupid.

einbert 06-06-2005 04:50 AM

Re: Got a valuebet here?
 
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By FAR the correct play is to bet

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