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HoldEmKillah 11-01-2005 02:41 PM

5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
Villian is, like, stupid. And bad. The night before he limp reraised from UTG all in w/AKo for ~$425 and I called him with JJ and stacked him. I think he's like 33/8 from what I recall.

How much to bet here? He has like $1450 behind

(btw, how much is considered 'deep'?)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $10 BB (6 max, 6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

Hero ($2645.39)
Button ($1460.25)
SB ($1175.50)
BB ($1072.75)
UTG ($1994.30)
MP ($437)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $10, 1 fold</font>, [Hero raises to $30</font>, 3 folds</font>, UTG raises to $95</font>, Hero calls $65.

Flop: ($205) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
UTG bets $125</font>, Hero raises to $450</font>, UTG calls $325.

Turn: ($1105) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)</font>
UTG checks

BobboFitos 11-01-2005 02:43 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
600

flawless_victory 11-01-2005 02:44 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
puuuuuuuuush.

HoldEmKillah 11-01-2005 02:52 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
Don't you think that let's him off JJ/QQ/KK too easily? The straight is out there to scare him as well as the paired board.

11-01-2005 03:01 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
I feel like a push here would allow him to get away from too many hands that he would think are best or bluff with on the river if given the chance. It seems like he would think it reasonable that hero's flop raise was a bluff, given the circumstances and the history, and try to bully/value bet with AA, KK, QQ, JJ, TT, AK, maybe even AQ or air.

I think I check here, because you're only really enormously ahead or enourmously behind, and you're almost definitely committed to the pot no matter what the river is. Thus, raising the chances that he'll commit the rest of his chips with an inferior hand seems prudent.

yvesaint 11-01-2005 03:03 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
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I think I check here, because you're only really enormously ahead or enourmously behind,

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i think youre enormously ahead of enormously ahead

why not bet the turn, makes it easier to get all-in on the river

AceHiStation 11-01-2005 03:04 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
I like an underbet here. I'd put 400-500 in the pot. Villain is likely to fold a flush draw or overpair to a strong bet here, but will either look to push you off your hand or will call here drawing dead with a draw. Plus, you're building a pot so you can push the river.
-Ace

11-01-2005 03:10 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
all of it.

Hattifnatt 11-01-2005 03:16 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
Something like 700 seems good.

Why do you raise only 3bb preflop with a limper?

11-01-2005 03:30 PM

Re: 5/10 boat, kinda deep. How much?
 
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600

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I like 600 also. Makes it so that if he decides to call the 600, he'll have to call off the rest on the river getting 3:1


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