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jonoo 12-22-2005 03:44 AM

($11) stop and go?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t640)
UTG (t1155)
MP1 (t1522)
MP2 (t523)
CO (t1652)
Button (t1278)
SB (t1230)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero???

push, call, stop and go? what my best line here?

12-22-2005 03:58 AM

Re: ($11) stop and go?
 
This is a good post about the stop and go. To quote Irieguy, [ QUOTE ]
There are two distinctly different situations in which a stop-n-go rates to be +EV:

1. When your chip count does not leave you enough folding equity to cause a player, good or otherwise, to fold if you come over the top of him preflop. All good players know how to do this.

2. When your opponent is not particularly good, so all you know is that he is more likely to call a big bet preflop than postflop.

[/ QUOTE ]
I think this is a push. If you had roughly a pot sized bet left for the flop, I'd prefer the stop and go--but here you have around 6bb to work with preflop, and 2.5x pot to use in a stop and go, which seems like too much.

Scuba Chuck 12-22-2005 04:03 AM

Re: ($11) stop and go?
 
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I think this is a push.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why do you think with 12 BBs behind that this is a push?

12-22-2005 04:05 AM

Re: ($11) stop and go?
 
Ah, I misread. I thought there were 6BBs. In that case, I don't know what the best play is. Anybody else?

Scuba Chuck 12-22-2005 04:20 AM

Re: ($11) stop and go?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Ah, I misread. I thought there were 6BBs. In that case, I don't know what the best play is. Anybody else?

[/ QUOTE ]

If there were two other callers in this hand, and I was closing the action here, I would likely call for set value. In this spot, I fold.

Badgerpoo 12-22-2005 06:17 AM

Re: ($11) stop and go?
 
I fold this because it is UTG doing the raising and the blinds are still relatively small. If the BB was 100 I would poosh.


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