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12-05-2005 12:09 AM

He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
Lost the hand history. I have pocket aces with blinds at 100/200, Partypoker $22 MTT. 415 people. No reads on the villain who calls my raise to 575.

He's right behind me, i'm 3rd to act.

Flop comes: Kd 8d 7 spades

Pot is 1450.

I bet 850. Villain who has the same amount of chips as me (4100) pushes.

How would you play the flop as far as betting. What about raising preflop. Instacall here, right?

Firefly 12-05-2005 12:11 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
Betting looks about right. Instcall that push. You see flush draws, K's and other trash here enough to have +EV here.

12-05-2005 12:13 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
575 too small from that position. I hate wasting aces with a ton of donkastic guys around.

12-05-2005 12:16 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
My roomate who was watching said I should check this flop here...I highly disagree, I'll explain his reasoning in a second.

12-05-2005 12:19 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
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My roomate who was watching said I should check this flop here...I highly disagree, I'll explain his reasoning in a second.

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Ummm...i cant see any good rationale to check this flop...yeah, i like the bet on the flop...and i'm calling this every time pretty much...oh btw...i'm sure your aces dont include the A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]?...you didnt mention...but im guessing not

12-05-2005 12:20 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
I had two black aces.

12-05-2005 12:23 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
I guess since we agree that I should have bet the flop the amount I did and call his push I'll explain my roomate's rationale for checking the flop, when he saw the villain's A 9 diamonds. The board ended up spitting out a 10 spades and a 6 clubs to give him a straight.

My roomate said that if I check to villain on the flop he'd check his flush draw. Then if I bet the turn he'd call with his gutshot straight draw and his 4 to the flush. Then when the board would have 6 7 8 10 and I would either check/bet villain would push and I'd still have around 2000-2500 chips to play with instead of being out of the tournament in 406th place.

Agree with him?

Yuv 12-05-2005 12:26 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
The only reasoning to check the flop is to enduce betting, not avoid it.

Exitonly 12-05-2005 12:27 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
bitchslap your roomate for me.

gobboboy 12-05-2005 12:30 AM

Re: He\'s Picked up a real hand here, Ace Ace
 
So you automatically put him on a flush draw even though you have absolutely no information that gives you that ability? And even if you did, you want to give him FREE CARDS to his draw? You have the best hand. You KNOW you have the best hand. He's going to call with his flush draw. CHARGE HIM.


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