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UATrewqaz 12-12-2005 08:20 PM

Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
There is already a Tookie thread but I am aghast by the slanted coverage of the typical left wing major media outlets.

All you hear is about Tookie, his supporters, what he's doing now, what he founded, what books he wrote, etc etc etc

I have not heard A SINGLE VICTIM'S NAME.

Has anyone heard any media outlet that listed the victim's names? This execution tonight is about the victims. Tonight is for them, it's not about "Tookie"

MMMMMM 12-12-2005 09:00 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
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Has anyone heard any media outlet that listed the victim's names? This execution tonight is about the victims. Tonight is for them, it's not about "Tookie"

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I just can't see how the execution does anything at all for the victims, so I can't see how the execution is for them.

elwoodblues 12-12-2005 09:02 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
You had the opportunity and instead tried to make politics of it.

12-12-2005 09:10 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
I've seen the mother of one of the vics. She wants justice/revenge. Not a particularly articulate lady. Maybe that's why you haven't seen her much.

Don't know about the other families. Like you say, none have, to my knowledge, been on camera. Maybe that's their wish. Not the bias you cite.

theweatherman 12-12-2005 09:19 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
The victims are dead, so how isthis execution going to help them at all? The death penelty is a drain on society and only helps those seeking revenge.

Revenge is not justice. Justice is letting murderers rot in prision rof the rest of their lives.

elwoodblues 12-12-2005 09:19 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
Most of the stories I've seen today mention Arnold Schwarzenegger. Must be right wing bias.

TomCollins 12-12-2005 09:28 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
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The victims are dead, so how isthis execution going to help them at all? The death penelty is a drain on society and only helps those seeking revenge.

Revenge is not justice. Justice is letting murderers rot in prision rof the rest of their lives.

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If its worse to rot in prison than die, why does he want his life spared?

12-12-2005 09:51 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
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Most of the stories I've seen today mention Arnold Schwarzenegger. Must be right wing bias.

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Or, simply because he's the governor of the state (a controversial one at that) and had the authority to grant clemency but chose not to?

12-12-2005 09:55 PM

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If its worse to rot in prison than die, why does he want his life spared?

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If he believes in God, perhaps he's concerned just a tad about "meeting his Maker." You know, that whole "answering for his sins" thingie.

Then again, maybe he thinks he can continue to do good work from his cell, kick back on the ole cot and put away all that good prison chow.

theweatherman 12-12-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Tookie, tookie, tookie... what about the victims?
 
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If its worse to rot in prison than die, why does he want his life spared?

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If he believes in God, perhaps he's concerned just a tad about "meeting his Maker." You know, that whole "answering for his sins" thingie.

Then again, maybe he thinks he can continue to do good work from his cell, kick back on the ole cot and put away all that good prison chow.

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I was speaking from a punishment perspective. When he is dead his punishment is over, since heis going to die eventually why not keep him locked up for 40 more years and then let him die.


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