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12-24-2005 03:39 PM

QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

Hero ($48.05)
BB ($20.10)
UTG ($13.15)
UTG+1 ($19.35)
MP1 ($23.80)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($13.85)
Button ($4.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.1</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: ($8.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5.

River: ($18.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39.05 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $11.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $68.25

Maulik 12-24-2005 03:41 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
you are going to miss a lot of value by playing like this...

Maulik 12-24-2005 03:41 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
bet the flop
pot the turn

orange 12-24-2005 03:43 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
I usually raise PF big, playing from the SB. OOP for the rest of the hand is ugly. Any reads? I usually don't do this unless I'm sure villan will raise a good amount here.

The L/RR and then check on the flop is very weird. I usually lead flop after showing so much aggression PF. Perhaps if preflop it went hero raise/ villan reraise/hero call, then maybe a check on the flop would have been ok. I understand it is a WA/WB situation, but I think I like betting this flop.

I think betting flop/pushing turn is the best IMO. Villan has less than a PSB by the turn (if we bet the flop that is).

Godfather80 12-24-2005 03:46 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) converter

Hero ($48.05)
BB ($20.10)
UTG ($13.15)
UTG+1 ($19.35)
MP1 ($23.80)
MP2 ($25)
CO ($13.85)
Button ($4.30)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.1</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.10) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: ($8.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5</font>, BB calls $5.

River: ($18.10) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39.05 (All-In)</font>, BB calls $11.10 (All-In).

Final Pot: $68.25

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I have some questions for you.

1. Why are you limping preflop?

2. Why are you not leading the flop?

3. Since you haven't bet the flop, why are you leading the turn?

4. Why are you pushing the river?

Maulik 12-24-2005 03:48 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
4. Why are you pushing the river?

He's only putting villain in for the last $11

Godfather80 12-24-2005 04:05 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
4. Why are you pushing the river?

He's only putting villain in for the last $11

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I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here.

Maulik 12-24-2005 04:08 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
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4. Why are you pushing the river?

He's only putting villain in for the last $11

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I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here.

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Me too, I always make a normal bet, relative to pot size. Is that what you do as well?

Godfather80 12-24-2005 04:16 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
[ QUOTE ]
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4. Why are you pushing the river?

He's only putting villain in for the last $11

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I understand that Hero covers villain by a good amount. But, I'm curious as to OP's reason for pushing here.

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Me too, I always make a normal bet, relative to pot size. Is that what you do as well?

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I'd have played the entire hand differently, but on this river as OP played it, I'd bet just over half of villain's remaining stack and hope for a call or push.

12-24-2005 04:29 PM

Re: QQ Limp re-raise from SB
 
i dont agree with you limp. People who limp with strong hands like QQ, KK, AA as SB take a higher risk of getting beat with crap. I would of raised preflop, and if he has 9x, he will most likly fold, butat this level the donkey will probably thinks your bluffing and will call. If he raises pre or post flop, i would call and put him all in post flop.


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