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yvesaint 11-05-2005 11:37 PM

short stacks can go to hell
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($762.30)
SB ($202)
BB ($413)
UTG ($178.10)
MP ($468)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $4, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($46) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $40</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $80</font>


villain is typical short stack donk, something like 50/5 over 50+ hands

easy fold, right? with the Ah, i probably just push him in

im just curious, who actually calls/puts him in here, and who folds ....

BobboFitos 11-05-2005 11:38 PM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
i go allin

edit - i also give far too much action to the ppl who play a short stack

AllIn3High 11-05-2005 11:41 PM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
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i go allin


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pokerjoker 11-06-2005 02:07 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
I push....Most short stacks do not play the type of drawing hands such as T9s, etc, that would have a flush here except AK or maybe AQ.

The only set he could have is JJJ, unless he is an idiot without regard for odds at all.

Him having a Jack or 2 "overcards" with a flush draw are most likely in my book.

If he is an idiot and would call your raise with 77 or 88 or a SC then he could easily be pulling this garbage with Top Pair and I still call.

Unless I read him as a nut peddler, I push. The donkey thing just makes it easier.

yvesaint 11-06-2005 02:08 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
yea, i called, put him in on a blank turn, he flipped over T9

i hate short stacks

pokerjoker 11-06-2005 02:10 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
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yea, i called, put him in on a blank turn, he flipped over T9

i hate short stacks

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why did you wait until the turn?

Maulik 11-06-2005 05:28 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
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yea, i called, put him in on a blank turn, he flipped over T9

i hate short stacks

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no results!!!


i still push, i hate shorty's.

yvesaint 11-06-2005 05:38 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
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i still push, i hate shorty's.

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even worse is of course he gets up after this hand and leaves

this stuff makes me even more mad than the check-mini-raise

boose_bagina 11-06-2005 05:45 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
min raises from shorty's always look suspicious. If you call the min raise bet you will almost always call follow-up all-in on turn. I normally fold here. Push with Ah.

PokerCat69 11-06-2005 07:33 AM

Re: short stacks can go to hell
 
Whenever an unknown player joins the table short I put them on the following hand range: AA-TT AK-AJ KQs.
They don't have the odds to call raises with SC and small PP.


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