Time for a heroic call?
 

Ok, this is in the Pokerstars 300 from saturday. About 30 left, bubble at 18. Overall its a relatively tough table, fairly tight, and aggressive.

I have about 8000, villain directly to my right has 7000. I have played him before, hes been playing relatively tight and aggro, hasn't done anything out of line. He probably views me similarly. Anyway, he opens EMP to 600 (100/200 25 blinds) I cold call with red 9s. Everyone else folds.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] He leads out for 600. Er, thats a fishy bet. Usually I'd smooth call a 1/2-3/4 size bet here but that bet was too small for me to just call I felt. So I raise to 2000. He pushes. I puke and...

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

puke certainly, but fold. youre still good with the blinds. tough spot. I would put him on an overpair. If he doesnt get out of line much, then he could be semi bluffing with AKc AQc, but even those hands leave you vulnerable. Id fold given your previous info.

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

I fold. However, Raising like that with intenetions of folding to a push is bad. Either call the flop, or call the push. It is true that you still have plernty of chips, and don't need to call his all in.

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

cough

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

A couple days ago, someone folded to a raise of 1800 with blinds of 300-600 with 99. Do you understand why?

I agree that a call is a better option in most case, but it is hard to play.

I think you have to fold, you don't even beat top pair and if he his on AK or AQ he has 14 outs.

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

Smells like a slightly ahead/crushed situation. Best case he's on overs (6 outs times two, plus a backdoor str8 draw), worse is overs with a couple of clubs (add nine more), then there's an overpair, and finally a set. Yuck.

Fold.

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

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I think you have to fold, you don't even beat top pair and if he his on AK or AQ he has 14 outs .

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Huh?

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

I think this is a fold too. Less because of the hands than the reads you both had. My guess is his lead out bet was purposefully weak, because he presumed you'd see it as weak and come back at him. In which case he either has a hand he doesn't mind going to showdown with (or, less likely given your read, balls of steel).

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

I really disagree with some of the ranges and math presented in this thread.....mainly because there arent any of either.

Re: Time for a heroic call?
 

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I cold call with red 9s.

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Had they been two black nines I would say call.