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sandrew 05-09-2005 11:18 AM

Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
Last night i played a live $220 tourney. I got aces cracked (3 rd tournament in a row)..

Set up:

Last hand of the 1st round. I have just won the last 4 or 6 hands. Built my chip stack up from the starting 800 to about 2K give or take. Blinds are currengly 5/15.

I am sitting on the button with AA. Everyone folds to me I raise to 60 (4x bb). BB who has 400 or so more than me puts me all in. I call. He shows JJ to my AA. However out comes the J. I'm out in the first 30 minutes.

I replayed this in my head and thought i would have done the same thing with KK and AKs.

My thoughts in calling were:

a.) I have AA can't start any better.
b.) I can serverly cripple a player.
c.) I will be sitting in good chip position early.

Would anyone have folded AA? Aren't you an 9-1 favorite or better? I can't remember the exact odds.

I get 1 tourney a month and always get knocked out showing the best hand either after flop (AA with rags or AK pairing K no A on the bd).. I am hoping that eventually these plays start showing +EV. I have only played 4 live tourneys so maybe not enough for +EV yet?

schwza 05-09-2005 11:26 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
bad beat post said what?

willie 05-09-2005 11:26 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
here comes the fold AA police.


no, you're not a 9-1 favorite, you're 4-1 i believe.


my chips beat his in the pot if he overplays jacks that fast.

tough break.

meow_meow 05-09-2005 11:27 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
[ QUOTE ]

Would anyone have folded AA? Aren't you an 9-1 favorite or better? I can't remember the exact odds.

I get 1 tourney a month and always get knocked out showing the best hand either after flop (AA with rags or AK pairing K no A on the bd).. I am hoping that eventually these plays start showing +EV. I have only played 4 live tourneys so maybe not enough for +EV yet?

[/ QUOTE ]

Oh great, a "should I have folded AA preflop?" and bad beat whine all in one post....

And no, you aren't a 9-1 favorite.

betgo 05-09-2005 11:28 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
You never want to get too much money in preflop with AA. My guide to tournament play explains how to play AA. Here is the link.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...=2#Post2350862

sandrew 05-09-2005 11:31 AM

Not ment as a whine.
 
This was not ment as a whine.. It was a real generic question about early play in a tournament with AA.. Didn't mean for it to sound like a whine.

I enjoy playing tournaments live. And was looking for a little advice for early preflop play when its your tournament life at stake.

betgo 05-09-2005 11:34 AM

Re: Not ment as a whine.
 
[ QUOTE ]
This was not ment as a whine.. It was a real generic question about early play in a tournament with AA.. Didn't mean for it to sound like a whine.

I enjoy playing tournaments live. And was looking for a little advice for early preflop play when its your tournament life at stake.

[/ QUOTE ]
Then please post on the Beginners forum.

Are you interested in playing heads up?

woodguy 05-09-2005 11:35 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
http://users.burgoyne.com/~jtod/crying%20baby.jpg

**WAHHHHHHH I LOST A 2 OUTER!!!**
**THAT'S NOT FAIR!!!! WAHHHHHHH**

mjm 05-09-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
9-1 odds!? Did he only have one hole card? Betgo are you serious, I will happily put any amount of money I can afford to lose in with A-A pre-flop if I can be sure of a caller. Bad beats happen.

schwza 05-09-2005 11:37 AM

Re: Can AA be overvalued preflop early in MTT?
 
don't be discouraged by the replies to this post (mine included) - 2+2 is actually really useful. we just get sick of people writing posts that are, frankly, kind of dumb. of course you want to get all the chips in pre-flop with aces, you're a big favorite against any hand (run stats here. you'll get the best feedback if you post specific hands, and there is never a good reason to post results in a hand.


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