Re: Recycling vs Garbage
 

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The *fact* that recycling is not economically feasable IS the real world.

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Absolutely. And that can be because of two things, either we correcly value raw materials and it's still infeasible. Or we do not value raw materials correctly, which leads to it being infeasible. Which it is I'm not certain, but I'm leaning towards that there are cases of both.

Re: Recycling vs Garbage
 

What's the "correct" value? By this, I don't mean for you to give me a dollar figure for a particular material. I mean, how would you define "correct".

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That of course is the problem, and I don't have an answer. It's probably not possible to know the "correct" value without knowing how much of the particular material there is out there, and that is something we don't for just about everything. And even if we know the amount there is, you still can't put a dollar value on it, the pricing would be done by the market. But the market would do a better job if we knew how much there is.

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So you don't know "correct" pricing, but you're comfortable saying the "current" price is "out of whack with the real world"?

Is market pricing, based on the information availble, is "out of whack with the real world"? Or, since you seem to be saying that market pricing *would* be correct, but isn't for some "unknown" reason, are you suggesting that there are forces that distort market pricing? Of course, I would agree with that idea - and those forces are goverments and their regulations.

Re: Recycling vs Garbage
 

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This may be true. Where can one find that Penn&Teller thingy you where talking about?

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It's available on their Season 2, Disc 2 DVD of their Showtime show Bullsh-t!. You can probably rent it from Netflix if you don't want to purchase the box set.