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Andrew Fletcher 12-07-2005 11:08 AM

Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
Any thoughts on how to keep this pot small on the turn? Villian seemed pretty tight. Am I just screwed 'cause I'm OOP?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

CO ($12.15)
Button ($7.90)
SB ($4.60)
Hero ($18.95)
UTG ($9.85)
UTG+1 ($6.25)
MP1 ($1.55)
MP2 ($12.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.35) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.3</font>, MP1 calls $0.30, Button folds.

Turn: ($0.95) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.75</font>, MP1 calls $0.75.

River: ($2.45) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, MP1 calls $0.40 (All-In).

Final Pot: $3.85

djoyce003 12-07-2005 11:11 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
why do we want to keep the pot small?

You could try betting less to keep it small...just a thought.

4_2_it 12-07-2005 11:16 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
You want to keep it small on the flop (1/2 pot), but open it up on the turn. You have to charge draws. You have trips, pot control and playing for small pots are for TP-type hands.

pho75 12-07-2005 11:18 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
MP1's stack size takes precedent over pot control in this hand. After the flop it's important to realize that he has only one bet left. All the money is going in. Nothing else matters.

Andrew Fletcher 12-07-2005 11:22 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
Sorry, I didn't post my read. Although his hand range is most likely wider that just a jack, I thought it was a real possiblity.

pho75 12-07-2005 11:23 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
Actually, once you hit your third jack, pot control is no longer an issue.

Andrew Fletcher 12-07-2005 11:23 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
I agree that I wasn't paying enough attention to his stack size. The river bet of $1 shows that.

Andrew Fletcher 12-07-2005 11:24 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
Pot control is for situations where you think your hand might be beat. I thought my kicker was weak and his flop call indicated he might have a jack. A re-raise on the flop and I would have felt more comfortable with a big turn bet after the other jack fell.

SonOfWestwood 12-07-2005 11:26 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
I'm not sure why you want to control the pot size here? Villain's got a short stack. I'm happy to get all his money in there.

12-07-2005 11:32 AM

Re: Let\'s talk about pot control OOP
 
There is the possibilty of this getting ugly on the river, but it's small, at these stakes people will be in with a single ace all day, dubs would have shown you big raises, you were ahead the whole time. Pot control matters little.
Making it bigger is all that mattered here, and from his short stack, it was already taken care of.

Cambraceres


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