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wacki 11-03-2005 08:00 AM

How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...pending21.html

Seriously, I want to know how do you become so powerful that you can make a move like that? What was his leverage? Why did nobody else in the Senate vote against this? What is going on?

Please, if you are going to make a worthless post that so and so is a scumbag... all republicans are scum.... all blah blah blah...just don't even bother posting. I don't care who is scum. i just want to know how he managed to get this bill passed. In otherwords, what was his secret weapon? What tactics did he use?

El Barto 11-03-2005 08:13 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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Please, if you are going to make a worthless post that so and so is a scumbag... all republicans are scum.... all blah blah blah...just don't even bother posting.

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Disclaimers trying to direct replyers how to reply are very annoying. If you can't handle free speech and stupid comments, you shouldn't post here.


As for your question. Stevens is the senior Republican, and like Byrd (the Senior Democrat) he can get all the pork he wants.

Seniority babe. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

wacki 11-03-2005 08:20 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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As for your question. Stevens is the senior Republican, and like Byrd (the Senior Democrat) he can get all the pork he wants.

Seniority babe. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img]

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I really doubt seniority is the only reason. What are his motives for building the bridge. The people of alaska don't even want the bridge.

Basically what I'm trying to find out is:

1) Motivation for building the bridge
2) Motivation for senators not to trump it.

jt1 11-03-2005 08:30 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
He probably has a financial interest on the island or knows someone who does.

If you expect people in power to look after the common good you're setting yourself up for continual disappointment. Politicians and corporate giants didn't get their positions of power because there nice guys. I don't believe that nice guys necessarily finish last, but they don't finish first....unless first is measured by your own happiness.

wacki 11-03-2005 08:36 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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He probably has a financial interest on the island or knows someone who does.


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probably? probably!!? If you want I can make up facts too!!!

It's so much fun!!!

Arnfinn Madsen 11-03-2005 08:43 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
If it is any comfort, from my homeplace the world's longest bridge of that kind (cable-stayed) was built to connect 1,000 citizens:

http://koti.japo.fi/~aapisku/mosvik/bridgenight.JPG

jt1 11-03-2005 09:01 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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probably? probably!!? If you want I can make up facts too!!!

It's so much fun!!!


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Do you expect someone to actually research this senators financial dealings b4 he/she posts a reply. I'm just saying that if I had to guess, I would say that he has some financial interest on the island. No one is making up facts.

tylerdurden 11-03-2005 09:05 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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1) Motivation for building the bridge

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Power.

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2) Motivation for senators not to trump it.

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They don't want to rock the boat. They have pork bills, too, and they don't want to give someone else a reason to vote against their stuff.

coffeecrazy1 11-03-2005 11:28 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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1) Motivation for building the bridge

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Money. Any big contract like this usually results in "fundraisers" for the legislator who got it passed.

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2)Motivation for senators not to trump it.

[/ QUOTE ] Not to sound like a broken record, or to reiterate pvn's statement, but also...money. The more money you secure in pork for your state, the more the recipients of that money are going to reward you for your favorable governance.

wacki 11-03-2005 11:33 AM

Re: How did the bridge to nowhere happen?
 
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Do you expect someone to actually research this senators financial dealings b4 he/she posts a reply.

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Since alaska is getting a half a billion dollar check they don't even want I expect some reporter out there to do the homework. All i want to know is if anyone has seen an article showing the details.

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I'm just saying that if I had to guess, I would say that he has some financial interest on the island. No one is making up facts.

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Ok lets review: You are guessing financial interest on the island of 50 people, and nice guys finish last.

You really helped me out there!


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