$55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

I can never decide what to do in this spot if I don't have any good reads.

Level 2 (15/30)
Hero (t1040)
Button (t2027)
SB (t1525)
BB (t530)
UTG (t1438)
UTG+1 (t915)
MP1 (t1070)
MP2 (t680)
MP3 (t775)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP3 raises to t90, Hero calls t90, Button calls t90, 2 folds.

Flop: (t315) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">MP3 bets t225 </font> , Hero???

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

i think call/push/fold are all ok. i have a slight preference for pushing, then folding, the calling.

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

i feel comfortable with a push here, although it's tough without reads.

whatever you do though, don't call.

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

i actually like a call here, and a fold to another turn bet on another undercard.

in my experience, the majority of people (maybe not a huge majority) will not fire two barrels with AK-AQ.

OTOH, I don't like the idea of blindly sticking my chips in where we have done absolutely nothing to eliminate JJ-AA from villian's range.

i often take very passive lines with these sorts of hands to try to gain information with our very limited amount of chips.

i think a (strong) argument could be made for folding this preflop, specifically because of this situation.

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

It's always very tricky, this kind of situation, because of the fact the board is two-tone. You can never tell if he's cont betting to pick up the pot, or protecting his hand (which beats TT here, or at best, splits) from either of you two having draws.

To be honest, because of the fact he's betting into two players rather than it being HU, I think it's a fold.. if he'd bet a smaller amount of the pot, say 1/2, or even 2/3rds, I like the move in more. I'm just not sure it's worth "looking him up" at this point of the tournament. If I had AK here OOP to two callers, I don't think I'd be betting the pot for instance, unless exactly AK [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] or AQ [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Obviously, although TT is ahead of these, it's probably not by enough to say a push is correct.

Good hand though and hopefully it generates some good discussion. I think pf is okay by the way too, although sometimes I could fold there.

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

fold or push. the decision is up to you...i can live with either. Hard to get away considering you have an overpair, but there are str8 and flush draws on the board, plus the inevitable overcards...i am liking fold more and more considering how early it is...

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

tangent:

i think i might call if the button pushes and MP folds.

is that crazy?

edit: this is assuming i called the first bet from MP.

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

i don't think that's crazy at all because i don't see button playing QQ-AA as a call preflop, although maybe JJ. what was your thinking?

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

TT isn't ahead of 2 overcards and a FD.

I always think these 77-TT overpair hands are tricky and close, and then I lose all my chips. This isn't a $6, you aren't going to stack somebody with a 9. Fold.

Re: $55: Standard small overpair, take 2
 

Well, it's silly to just call the MP bet if you're willing to put all your chips in the middle. But you might be priced in if you played that way.