Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

Below is one of the games that I have gone out on the bubble. I can generally make it here, and then ???
In this one I maybe could/should have pushed but I min raised. I was also shortstacked.When he came back over the top, did I make the correct play?

300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 13541190) - Thu Jun 30
18:55:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 13971 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: GFS (910)(Hero)
Seat 7: Devrin (2315)
Seat 8: gu008 (3101)
Seat 9: DGip1106 (1674)
gu008 posts small blind (150)
DGip1106 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GFS309 [ 7h, 7c ]
GFS309 raises (600) to 600
Devrin folds.
gu008 raises (850) to 1000
DGip1106 folds.
GFS309 calls (310)
GFS309 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2120 with GFS309
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9s, Qh, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2120 | Side Pot 1: 90
Board: [ 9s Qh 6c 9c Ts ]
GFS309 balance 0, lost 910 [ 7h 7c ] [ two pairs, nines and sevens --
Qh,9s,9c,7h,7c ]
Devrin balance 2315, didn't bet (folded)
gu008 balance 4311, bet 1000, collected 2210, net +1210 [ Qd Kh ] [ two pairs,
queens and nines -- Kh,Qd,Qh,9s,9c ]
DGip1106 balance 1374, lost 300 (folded)

In this next hand, I'm off the bubble. Different placement, same result, and I'm out on a hand I'm not certain I played well> Probably should have checked when the King came on the flop??

300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 13558507) - Fri Jul 01
08:53:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 13853 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: adamj217 (5535)
Seat 2: GFS309 (1020)(Hero)
Seat 5: skins37 (1445)
adamj217 posts small blind (150)
GFS309 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GFS309 [ 8c, 8h ]
skins37 folds.
adamj217 raises (450) to 600
GFS309 calls (300)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 3d, Ks ]
adamj217 checks.
GFS309 bets (420)
GFS309 is all-In.
adamj217 calls (420)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
Creating Main Pot with $2040 with GFS309
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2040 |
Board: [ 3c 3d Ks 6h Qs ]
adamj217 balance 6555, bet 1020, collected 2040, net +1020 [ Kd 8s ] [ two
pairs, kings and threes -- Kd,Ks,Qs,3c,3d ]
GFS309 balance 0, lost 1020 [ 8c 8h ] [ two pairs, eights and threes --
Ks,8c,8h,3c,3d ]
skins37 balance 1445, didn't bet (folded)

Re: Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

Just push both hands pre-flop. In general, once you have around 10BB left either push or fold.

Re: Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

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Below is one of the games that I have gone out on the bubble. I can generally make it here, and then ???
In this one I maybe could/should have pushed but I min raised. I was also shortstacked.When he came back over the top, did I make the correct play?

300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 13541190) - Thu Jun 30
18:55:25 EDT 2005
Table Table 13971 (Real Money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: GFS (910)(Hero)
Seat 7: Devrin (2315)
Seat 8: gu008 (3101)
Seat 9: DGip1106 (1674)
gu008 posts small blind (150)
DGip1106 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GFS309 [ 7h, 7c ]
GFS309 raises (600) to 600
Devrin folds.
gu008 raises (850) to 1000
DGip1106 folds.
GFS309 calls (310)
GFS309 is all-In.
Creating Main Pot with $2120 with GFS309
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9s, Qh, 6c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ts ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2120 | Side Pot 1: 90
Board: [ 9s Qh 6c 9c Ts ]
GFS309 balance 0, lost 910 [ 7h 7c ] [ two pairs, nines and sevens --
Qh,9s,9c,7h,7c ]
Devrin balance 2315, didn't bet (folded)
gu008 balance 4311, bet 1000, collected 2210, net +1210 [ Qd Kh ] [ two pairs,
queens and nines -- Kh,Qd,Qh,9s,9c ]
DGip1106 balance 1374, lost 300 (folded)

In this next hand, I'm off the bubble. Different placement, same result, and I'm out on a hand I'm not certain I played well> Probably should have checked when the King came on the flop??

300/600 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 13558507) - Fri Jul 01
08:53:38 EDT 2005
Table Table 13853 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 3
Seat 1: adamj217 (5535)
Seat 2: GFS309 (1020)(Hero)
Seat 5: skins37 (1445)
adamj217 posts small blind (150)
GFS309 posts big blind (300)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to GFS309 [ 8c, 8h ]
skins37 folds.
adamj217 raises (450) to 600
GFS309 calls (300)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 3c, 3d, Ks ]
adamj217 checks.
GFS309 bets (420)
GFS309 is all-In.
adamj217 calls (420)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Qs ]
Creating Main Pot with $2040 with GFS309
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2040 |
Board: [ 3c 3d Ks 6h Qs ]
adamj217 balance 6555, bet 1020, collected 2040, net +1020 [ Kd 8s ] [ two
pairs, kings and threes -- Kd,Ks,Qs,3c,3d ]
GFS309 balance 0, lost 1020 [ 8c 8h ] [ two pairs, eights and threes --
Ks,8c,8h,3c,3d ]
skins37 balance 1445, didn't bet (folded)

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You need to push before the flop in both of these hands. You are not even close to aggressive enough here.

And don't min-raise when you have 3x BBs. You should almost never min-raise to begin with.

Re: Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

Push both preflop. Nothing horrendous given what you did decide to do.

Re: Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

Thanks all. The consensus is to push both times. At what point would you make this call. In other words, would you make it with 6 players, or basically Four on in?

Re: Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

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Thanks all. The consensus is to push both times. At what point would you make this call. In other words, would you make it with 6 players, or basically Four on in?

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OP, do a search on coinflips (or coinflip debates). You will find your answer. Much has been discussed. But the general answer is that calling should only be done with 5 hands.

Edit: Maybe when you say the word "call" you mean the decision to push. If that is your point, then disregard my comments.

Re: Trouble with the bubble, and then some more.Comments please?
 

I think you played #2 perfectly. There's no point in pushing when your fold equity is 0%. Call and push/call any flop, which is exactly what you did.

If he hadn't flopped a King, there is a chance he folds on the flop. There's zero chance he folds preflop.

I know this play is overused and you aren't first to act on the flop, but in this case it was correct, IMO.