JJ - Turn Play
 

MP2 is in his 3rd hand at the table, only saw him post and fold flop.

It seemed like a c/r was the way to go on this turn... i'm not sure what he'd play this way that he wouldn't bet out on the turn. am i wrong? comments appreciated.


Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (12.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, Hero calls, MP1 folds.

Turn: (8.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

River: (8.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

cant really fault this at all

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

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It seemed like a c/r was the way to go on this turn... i'm not sure what he'd play this way that he wouldn't bet out on the turn. am i wrong? comments appreciated.

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That nine is gonna scare most fish and even some tags. Things I could see being played this way: AK (maybe, probably capse PF), AQ, AT, weaker K (worried about kicker trouble). Bassically that nine is a freeze card, it will freeze up a lot of bettors. I like leading that turn, it makes your straight less obvious and may even get a raise, if he thinks you're just donking the scare card.

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

I don't think many players at .50/1 are going to see you donk a scare card and think you're trying to bluff them. They're just going to call down. Which they'll do almost always when you check/raise them anyway.

I like the play, sucks MP2 checked behind.

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

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cant really fault this at all

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you don't think the turn check/raise will help villains find easier folds?

I like the donk on the turn.

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

AK,AQ,KQ? Leaning towards AK

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

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you don't think the turn check/raise will help villains find easier folds?


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i really didn't think he'd fold for one bet anywhere. i figured my options were:

1.) bet turn and river. villain would definitely call the turn, and may/may not call the river

2.) check/raise turn and bet river. villain would call the check/raise and may/may not call the river.

this all assumes i'm ahead, don't get 3bet, etc. either way, i thought he'd be good for at least one bet in the face of my aggression. the question was whether or not he'd put one in on the turn himself. i thought he would.

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

::hand bias because I saw mp2 checked behind::

This is a pretty scary card for other players. I'd probably just lead out with it.

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

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you don't think the turn check/raise will help villains find easier folds?

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yeah i don't think it's very important to worry about an unknown player finding folds.

Re: JJ - Turn Play
 

I would bet the turn.