Two big schools: Any comparison studies?
 

There are two schools of late stages strategy, pushers and limpers.

Here is a typical debate
http://www.thepokerforum.com/ubbcgi/...25;t=000014;p=

From my observation,

Pushers: Pf people, 80% of the winning population, probably more math oriented, most likely have a football star avatar.

Limpers: Flop people, fans of Negreanu, limp AK depending on situation, minority shouted at by pushers, lurking not posting in most forums, most likely doesn’t have an avatar.

I have tested these two schools but my results of course are inconclusive.

Are there any statistical studies, polls, math analysis or simulation out there comparing these two schools? Or is it only a matter of style?

If there are no studies, perhaps people like eastbay can do some simulations?

Advance thanks.

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Your first post reeks of newbness. Limping in the late stages is just horrible.

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Limpers: Flop people, fans of Negreanu, limp AK depending on situation

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I didn't even know bad players played like this.

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My main point is not to debate here but hey

Why would you want to raise/push AK if you know there will be at least 2-4 lucky gambling callers and no folding equity? Raising AK for value just doesn’t cut it.

And there are much more oppotunities to outplay the opponent postflop.

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Raising AK for value just doesn’t cut it.

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I think you need to run some of those simulations you were talking about.

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Tell me what's the winning % of AK against 4 callers.

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keep using the limper school of thought if you hate money.

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Tell me what's the winning % of AK against 4 callers.

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About 30%

Tell me what late game tourney you are playing that has 4 callers calling a push.

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I like the idea of the limping school. It makes the game profitable for me.

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30%? I thought that is against one opponent.

I did mention DEPENDING ON SITUATION, didn't I?