I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

A tribute to Big Punisher's "I'm not a player I just "crush" a lot."

Was this a MONSTER FOLD? Par for the course? lstream's Horse "Raise" concept come into play here? Weak-tight?



7 Card Stud High ($3/$6), Ante $0.50, Bring-In $1 (hand converter)

3rd Street - (1.33 SB)

Seat 1: xx xx 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___brings-in
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 5: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 6: xx xx J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___folds
Seat 7: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___calls

4th Street - (3.00 SB)

Seat 2: xx xx Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Hero: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]___checks___folds
Seat 4: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___bets
Seat 7: xx xx T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]___checks___calls
Seat 8: xx xx A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]___checks___calls

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

Bad fold. Dosent the 7 or 8 seat bet out or raise with a 4-flush here? Wouldnt the 2 seat surely bet with a 4-flush/pair here as he wouldnt want to risk it being checked around? Sure your ace is completely dead, but what are you thinking you're up againt? You played this hand like a scared little school girl. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

Mike

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

beer - i officially am bewildered by you

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

Mike, I hate you.

Why are you assuming 3/6 players play 4 flushes aggressively?

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

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beer - i officially am bewildered by you

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Do I just make all of the wrong moves, or what?

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

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Bad fold.

Mike

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Roland will like it.

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

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beer - i officially am bewildered by you

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Do I just make all of the wrong moves, or what?

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I just can't reconcile your earlier post where you cap with 3 flush on 3rd and this one where you folded ACES! Especially after you called me out for having no intestinal fortitude!

The hypocrisy! [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

Do you think that 2 or 3 players checked with 4 to the flush? I'm not sure, but I think you have to bet here and hope for a raise to thin the field. In fact, a bet from you might knock people out where a bet from the last-to-act won't. (This is a phenomenon I've noticed at the lower limits--people never give the last-to-act credit for a hand when he bets instead of taking a free card.) Your hand is strong enough to take on one 4-flush, and nobody's suit is completely live.

I don't hate the fold... if you are up against 2 or more four flushes, you're in a world of hurt with the dead aces. But with them all checking, I'm not sure if you can assume you're against strong 4-card draws.

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

If I have to play the hand 3 way I'm in trouble.

Re: I\'m not a player I just fold a lot...
 

Probably not the worst fold in the world here. Three villians caught their second flush card. And your aces are dead. If you're up against 3 flushes on 4th you're leading but you're still losing more than you're winning. If you're up against even one four flush you're 4:1 or worse.