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AceHiStation 12-16-2005 08:23 PM

3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
I've been playing probably 30 hands at this table so far, somewhat LAGgish, but not as crazy as I can get. I see other players 3-betting allin and making huge overbets preflop with AA and they seem to always get paid off. I was just wondering what some 2+2ers prefer to do. Also, I'm not trying to be results oriented with this post, but this hand is a good example.
-Ace


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 5 handed) converter

BB ($600)
UTG ($290.95)
MP ($407.07)
Hero ($933.20)
SB ($640)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls $6, MP calls $6, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $35</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $94</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $65.

Flop: ($215) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $200</font>, BB calls $100.

Turn: ($615) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero bets $300, BB calls $300.

River: ($615) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $615

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has Ts Tc (four of a kind, tens).
Hero has Ad As (two pair, aces and tens).
Outcome: BB wins $615. </font>
Converter screwed up pot sizes.

ahnuld 12-16-2005 09:11 PM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
Nah, I dont reraise that. If you do, he drops it pretty fast. The only time I 3 bet AA KK preflop (sometimes QQ) is if a smoothcall means taking the flop 3 handed. In that case, or if I have a crazy image, I reraise. But only in those circumstances.

Big_Jim 12-16-2005 09:18 PM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
You don't re-raise when you're OOP vs. player with a wide re-raising range with deep stacks? Cuz I do.

BTW, given stack sizes and position here, PF is fine.

On this hand, I probably just call the flop, though.

Gregg777 12-16-2005 09:19 PM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
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I see other players 3-betting allin and making huge overbets preflop with AA and they seem to always get paid off.

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It all depends on the table and limit. I normally don't see this as much at 600NL, so my first response would have been no. But since that is what you have been seeing, then yes.

If there is a good chance to get it all in when you're the favorite, why not? If players are shutting down to a three bet, then don't.

ahnuld 12-16-2005 09:55 PM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
If opponent puts 1/6 of his stack in preflop, I dont bother reraising. Deep, with like 200bb, ill def. reraise.

Marlow 12-16-2005 11:33 PM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
[ QUOTE ]
On this hand, I probably just call the flop, though.

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I'm curious about this. Why do you prefer a call here? Are you afraid you might raise him out with a re-raise, or do you worry about being behind?

Big_Jim 12-17-2005 06:20 AM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
Worried about raising him out.

WAWB spot, here.

He has at most 4 outs (unless he has Q9 or 89...), we have at most 2 outs.

Let him keep firing with AK. I think the money all goes in if he has QQ/KK anyway.

Lucky 12-17-2005 07:11 AM

Re: 3/6(6-max): 3-bet aces preflop?
 
PF, it looks great. You may want to flop better tho.


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