setting the bear trap at the ol\' 200nl
hero has 200$
villain has 150$ preflop hero is on button with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] only villain limps, hero makes it 8$, villain calls. reads: villain is super tight preflop but will try to push you off a hand if he suspects you have AK.. flop (18.75$): T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] now normally i'd 15$-pot this spot, but instead i check when checked to me. turn (18.75$): [T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] now when it's checked to me i bet 5$, villain thinks and thinks and comes over the top to 20$. I push. |
Re: setting the bear trap at the ol\' 200nl
See the problem is now you win $20 extra (maybe) but lose $150 when behind 100% of the time. I'd bet the flop, check the turn and raise the river.
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Re: setting the bear trap at the ol\' 200nl
Ugh, he will probably only call when he has you crushed. Just call his c/r on the turn.
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Re: setting the bear trap at the ol\' 200nl
Re-read what you wrote about the villian. Why would you push the turn if he reads you for a bluff?
I have no problem with checking a flop like this once in a while. But when he checkraises, you are either way ahead or drawing to two outs. He folds 100% of the time you are ahead, and calls 100% of the time he is ahead (since he'd have to have a fullhouse). Just call the turn and see what he does on the river. |
Re: setting the bear trap at the ol\' 200nl
I don't really like this one. Limp call from a tight player usually means a low/mid PP. Unless he is an idiot here (or 2% played his KK really really weird) its a win $20 (no set)/lose $150 (set).
When you push u either wanna do it when u know your beat (bluff or semibluff) or when you are have a great hand and expect opponent to have a 2nd best hand that would put his chips in the middle) pushing into a small pot when you are unsure and the only thing that calls you beats you is going to hurt. |
Re: setting the bear trap at the ol\' 200nl
ewww, why would u do that...
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i was fairly certain i'd get the responses that i got along the lines of ew i don't like that. and in retrospect, you're right from an objective view. however, the villain here wasn't a true ABC nut peddler but he seemed more along the evolution line of figuring he can make more $ with his low PP's and trying to read hands of his opponents.
he called, had 99 river bricked MHIG. either way you look at it, i agree 100% with everyone here that he'll call with sets...the majority of the time. i rarely do this however and felt i can get away with it against the opponent. thanks again for the thoughts! |
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no need to get tricksey, just bet the flop. This isnt 2k nl, opponents really arent that observant. I dont like push, just call here and raise his river bet instead or raise a smaller amount.
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no need to get tricksey, just bet the flop. This isnt 2k nl, opponents really arent that observant. I dont like push, just call here and raise his river bet instead or raise a smaller amount. [/ QUOTE ] you're right this isn't 2k nl. it also isn't 2nl. if this was 200nl at the casino i'd be all for your thinking. however, this is mid-stakes and believe it or not, poker players CAN be good. |
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I'd assume he'd be more likely to think a full PSB is what you'd do with missed AKo. I've won decent pots like that by inducing bluffs from [censored] hands by betting full pot to resemble a steal.
----- PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) SB ($91.80) BB ($110.10) UTG ($208.70) UTG+1 ($62.40) MP1 ($311.60) MP2 ($225.60) Hero ($200) Button ($218.85) Preflop: Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $6, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($15) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $56.4</font>, Hero calls $42.40. Turn: ($127.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> River: ($127.80) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Final Pot: $127.80 Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF"> UTG+1 has Js Ts (high card, jack). Hero has Td Th (one pair, tens). Outcome: Hero wins $127.80. </font> ----- |
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