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curtains 12-30-2005 01:57 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 

I would move allin but wouldnt be excited about it.

curtains 12-30-2005 01:58 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 
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If you're going to be this aggro, why not just push pf?


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Because the flop is actually a good flop and he may now be way ahead (with outs if he isnt) instead of definitely behind.

Scuba Chuck 12-30-2005 02:08 AM

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Because the flop is actually a good flop and he may now be way ahead (with outs if he isnt) instead of definitely behind.

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Really? At the $55s, are you putting this guy on a hand range here that doesn't include a bunch of aces?

curtains 12-30-2005 02:20 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 

If he has an ace why didnt he raise? Why cant he have JT, Q9s, KQ etc etc, 77 that he decides to fold to the bet. why does he have to have an ace so often, and eevn when he does we have plenty of outs.

lastchance 12-30-2005 02:22 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 
Curtainz said he may be ahead, not that he is ahead.

Thinking about it, you have 5 outs to two pair, 4 outs to a damn near nut straight (only A5o/maybe 55 calls you here). That's a pretty damn good chance of winning this hand, if you don't win because of folds/you're ahead.

People love Ax, and A2-A6/A7 seems very likely here.

curtains 12-30-2005 02:24 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 

btw we win against A8 about 35-36% of the time.

lastchance 12-30-2005 02:33 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 
Yeah, missed the 4 outer to the straight. Do you call if flop is A74?

curtains 12-30-2005 03:00 AM

Re: (55) 2nd pair + gutshot bubble
 
I check fold an A74 flop lastchance. Backdoor flush draw doesnt hurt either.


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