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ebaudry 07-21-2005 08:43 PM

KK too tight?
 
Should I have pushed PF?

Should have called the turn bet, though likely beat, because of how short my stack was?

Should I presume the better to be more or less likely to have the Ace since he bet into me on the turn (rather than letting me take myself in?).


***** Hand History for Game 2401513769 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:14135775 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Thursday, July 21, 20:30:06 EDT 2005
Table Table 12717 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 2: RubMyNuttz ( $1525 )
Seat 3: HERO ( $715 )
Seat 4: druw_5050 ( $680 )
Seat 5: Dr_Turnament ( $730 )
Seat 6: tomhagen ( $1315 )
Seat 8: redfox107 ( $755 )
Seat 9: ChemKinetics ( $380 )
Seat 10: GK67FF ( $1900 )
Trny:14135775 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh Kd ]
tomhagen raises [60].
redfox107 folds.
ChemKinetics folds.
GK67FF calls [60].
RubMyNuttz calls [60].
ebaudry raises [200].
druw_5050 folds.
Dr_Turnament folds.
tomhagen calls [140].
GK67FF folds.
RubMyNuttz calls [140].
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, Th, 8s ]
tomhagen checks.
RubMyNuttz checks.
ebaudry bets [200].
tomhagen folds.
RubMyNuttz calls [200].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
RubMyNuttz is all-In [1125]
ebaudry folds.
RubMyNuttz shows [ Td, Jd ] two pairs, aces and tens.
RubMyNuttz wins 2230 chips from the main pot with two pairs, aces and tens.

vinyard 07-21-2005 08:48 PM

Re: KK too tight?
 
With 180 in the pot before I act and a stack of 715 I push this precisely 100% of the time.

07-21-2005 08:53 PM

Re: KK too tight?
 
[ QUOTE ]
With 180 in the pot before I act and a stack of 715 I push this precisely 100% of the time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, 200 is not enough. You don't have to push, but you certainly could. A push or a bump to around $500 would've probably done the trick.

kuro 07-21-2005 09:06 PM

Re: KK too tight?
 
There is no reason to be so risk averse with KK that you push preflop here or that you raise half your stack. Getting two people to put more money in preflop when you have kings is fantastic. You just got unlucky that the flop contained an ace.

I would just check behind on the flop because it's too likely that someone has an ace and won't fold. The turn is actually good because it makes it more likely that your hand is good. If villain bets or pushs the turn you have to make a tough decision based on how you think they would really play a big hand here.


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