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Chief911 12-13-2005 11:02 PM

Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
Ok. I've played two hands previous to this. Won one w/out showdown, and won one w/out showdown. Both small pots.

No good info on villian in this hand.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

MP2 (t2030)
MP3 (t885)
CO (t1025)
Button (t1125)
SB (t820)
BB (t1075)
UTG (t970)
UTG+1 (t1200)
Hero (t1090)
MP1 (t1680)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, MP1 calls t60, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>.

Flop: (t150) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks.

Turn: (t150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t225</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t375


I wasn't done with the pain though. Next hand:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

MP1 (t2030)
MP2 (t885)
MP3 (t1025)
CO (t1125)
Button (t810)
SB (t1055)
BB (t970)
UTG (t1200)
Hero (t1030)
UTG+2 (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t100, MP3 calls t60.

Flop: (t390) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t400</font>, Hero folds, MP3 folds.

Final Pot: t790


Finally, a third verse:

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (10 handed) converter

UTG+2 (t2030)
MP1 (t885)
MP2 (t905)
MP3 (t1125)
CO (t1080)
Button (t1045)
SB (t950)
BB (t1200)
Hero (t910)
UTG+1 (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, UTG+1 calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t60, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls t60, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t1045 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero

ansky451 12-13-2005 11:05 PM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
1) good. If hes tricky at all i also check flop, or if hes a donkey.

2) I open raise but it doesn't really matter. if i limped i play it your way.

3) insta push.

Roman 12-13-2005 11:05 PM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
meh I dont mind it either way, I call/fold depending on the tournament/my mood/what else I gotta do that day.

Chief911 12-13-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
I should mention that hand 3, was RIGHT after hand 2.

Nick

yabastid 12-13-2005 11:50 PM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
Hey, Chief,

I think 1 and 2 are pretty standard. I don't mind the limp with JJ and I think a fold is pretty easy.
Hand 3 I'm pooooshing!

12-13-2005 11:57 PM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
I like hand 1 and hand 2, hand 3 I'm calling.

Exitonly 12-14-2005 12:11 AM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
1. c-bet it you little girl.
2. why the limp? raiiiiise that. w/ the limp, yea just toss it.
3. Call.

KneeCo 12-14-2005 12:12 AM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
[ QUOTE ]
1. c-bet it you little girl.
2. why the limp? raiiiiise that. w/ the limp, yea just toss it.
3. Call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Seems about right. I thik the limpers open up the villains range quite a bit in hand 3. What's the buy-in?

billyjex 12-14-2005 01:06 AM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
wtf? why are people liking hand 1? bet! you are heads up after being the PFR, you will take this down enough to make a 90 bet profitable, if he calls, you might hit an A/Q, or you guys might check it down and you will win w/ A high. keep it simple and bet.

hand 2, is fine, folding pf to the 2nd raise might be cool, cause when you flop an overpair it's gonna suck going broke to a QQ/KK/AA.

hand 3, i dunno, this is TT/AK/AQ alot more than its a big pair cause some people have a good but vulnerable holding like that and can't really do much else but go all in. so I flip a coin and call if it's heads or tails.

Lloyd 12-14-2005 01:27 AM

Re: Hands I Present Thee, Three. Help ME.
 
1) Why bother raising from EP with something like AQ and not make some type of a continuation bet, particularly when the flop is as favorable as it comes without actually making a pair? You're not trying to steal the blinds. You're very likely to be called by a wide range of hands. You're going to miss the flop most of the time. You HAVE to take a shot at it. Otherwise just call and see what happens. I don't mind checking the flop if you have an intention to raise. But when he checks behind you've got to lead out on the turn. I also don't mind betting with the intention of 3-betting if raised.

2) Definitely don't like this line. If you want to see a cheap flop then fine but you need to fold when it's raised and re-raised. You're barely getting the right odds to call for a set and you still have the MP raiser who might re-raise. I would normally raise it up first.

3) Pretty close call. You wouldn't normally see AA there. Perhaps but not likely KK. QQ is possible. AK is very likely. TT/99 maybe. I think you're about even, maybe very slightly ahead of his range. Decent overlay for the blinds. I like taking these small edges early knowing I will often bust but giving me enough chips to start pushing things and building a big stack if I double up.


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