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Newt_Buggs 08-26-2005 05:23 AM

Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

MP2 (t1085)
MP3 (t892)
Hero (t1165)
Button (t230)
SB (t1375)
BB (t855)
UTG (t1965)
UTG+1 (t693)
MP1 (t1740)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t50, MP3 calls t50, Hero calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t250) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero checks.

Turn: (t250) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks, Hero?

He has almost convinced me of his preference, but I still like mine as well.

08-26-2005 05:33 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
I say check. I doubt strongly that anyone has any outs against you, and nobody's represented top pair, so you can't expect many calls here--maybe a ten or the Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Pray a heart doesn't come down on the river and a T may bet, you may get a bluff, someone may make a straight or a set, etc.

usmhot 08-26-2005 07:11 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
Interesting spot.
Depending on reads
I'd either check and hope something comes on the river to interest the others
OR
I'd lay out a small bet (even just 1BB) to try to fool them that I'm trying to bluff it. If anyone else is drawing to the flush they just might bite.

johnnybeef 08-26-2005 07:26 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
About the only way you are getting paid is if someone makes a horrible play, puts you on a steal and comes over top. Not betting could give a free card to a set, the pot is a decent size, just take er down.

Beefcake

Phil Van Sexton 08-26-2005 07:35 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 

I'd bet 150. I don't like checking.

bennies 08-26-2005 07:36 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
I (on lower buyins) will always check this with position. The board only pairs 26% on the river (chance of a boat), so I feel good about giving the free card.

Jman28 08-26-2005 07:38 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
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I'd bet 150. I don't like checking.

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ReDeYES88 08-26-2005 08:31 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
[ QUOTE ]
About the only way you are getting paid is if someone makes a horrible play, puts you on a steal and comes over top. Not betting could give a free card to a set, the pot is a decent size, just take er down.

Beefcake

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Does a set typically let this check through when the third heart hits the turn? On that same note, does a set let the pot on a two heart flop stay closed?

That said, I'd still bet the turn, but not to keep a set from getting a free card. We most likely won't be stacking someone, but we can pull a few more chips in our direction if we keep the pot small enough for someone to chase with a moderate hand.

Unarmed 08-26-2005 09:12 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
Bet. You checked last to act on the flop. If there's a semi-intelligent aggro among your four opponents he'll read you for a steal because most will bet their FD on the flop. Plus you get value from Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], etc etc.

fnord_too 08-26-2005 09:18 AM

Re: Help me settle this dispute with a 2+2er ($215)
 
bets ~T125

If someone is slowplaying a hand, you stack them.
If someone has a weak hand, you might get a little out of them.
If no one has anything, you probably not going to get paid off on the river anyway.

If the stacks were deeper, I like betting the flop against most line ups.


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