A Couple of $25 Hands
 

Anybody play these any differently?

#Game No : 3152467852
***** Hand History for Game 3152467852 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Monday, December 05, 23:53:41 EDT 2005
Table Table 65583 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 1: cybermonkey9 ( $31.14 )
Seat 2: mattspker ( $64.09 )
Seat 5: RJSilver ( $14.27 )
Seat 10: davebreal ( $15.51 )
Seat 9: MacLuvr ( $45.75 )
Seat 3: sspoolr ( $20.70 )
Seat 6: JeffNeilF ( $14.40 )
Seat 7: bosox1039 ( $7.20 )
Seat 8: ollie8148 ( $22.65 )
bosox1039 posts small blind [$0.10].
ollie8148 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to davebreal [ Ac 2h 4s Ah ]
MacLuvr folds.
>You have options at Table 68464 Table!.
davebreal calls [$0.25].
cybermonkey9 calls [$0.25].
mattspker folds.
sspoolr folds.
RJSilver folds.
JeffNeilF calls [$0.25].
bosox1039 calls [$0.15].
ollie8148 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Js, 3c, 2c ]
Kurtovski has joined the table.
bosox1039 bets [$0.25].
ollie8148 folds.
davebreal raises [$1.95].
cybermonkey9 calls [$1.95].
JeffNeilF calls [$1.95].
bosox1039 calls [$1.70].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
bosox1039 checks.
davebreal bets [$5].
cybermonkey9 raises [$23.60].
JeffNeilF folds.
bosox1039 folds.
davebreal is all-In [$8.31]
** Dealing River ** [ Kd ]
cybermonkey9 shows [ 9c, Jc, 7d, 5h ] two pairs, jacks and nines.
davebreal shows [ Ac, 2h, 4s, Ah ] a pair of aces.
cybermonkey9 wins $10.29 from side pot #1 with two pairs, jacks and nines.
cybermonkey9 wins $33.92 from the main pot with two pairs, jacks and nines.
There was no qualifying low hand.



#Game No : 3152488018
***** Hand History for Game 3152488018 *****
$25 PL Omaha Hi/Lo - Monday, December 05, 23:56:48 EDT 2005
Table Table 65583 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: cybermonkey9 ( $48.05 )
Seat 2: mattspker ( $64.09 )
Seat 5: RJSilver ( $14.27 )
Seat 10: davebreal ( $9.24 )
Seat 9: MacLuvr ( $45.40 )
Seat 3: sspoolr ( $20.70 )
Seat 6: JeffNeilF ( $12.20 )
Seat 7: bosox1039 ( $6.55 )
Seat 8: ollie8148 ( $22.60 )
Seat 4: Kurtovski ( $25 )
davebreal posts small blind [$0.10].
cybermonkey9 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to davebreal [ As 5h 3c 2h ]
mattspker folds.
sspoolr folds.
RJSilver folds.
JeffNeilF calls [$0.25].
bosox1039 raises [$0.50].
ollie8148 folds.
MacLuvr folds.
davebreal raises [$1.90].
cybermonkey9 folds.
JeffNeilF calls [$1.75].
bosox1039 calls [$1.50].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 4c, 6c ]
davebreal bets [$5.95].
JeffNeilF calls [$5.95].
bosox1039 is all-In [$4.55]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
davebreal is all-In [$1.29]
JeffNeilF calls [$1.29].
** Dealing River ** [ Tc ]
davebreal shows [ As, 5h, 3c, 2h ] a pair of sixes.
JeffNeilF shows [ Ah, 3s, Jd, 2c ] a pair of sixes.
bosox1039 shows [ Js, 2d, Ad, Kd ] two pairs, kings and sixes.
JeffNeilF wins $5.08 from side pot #1 with a pair of sixes with jack kicker.
bosox1039 wins $18.95 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and sixes.
There was no qualifying low hand.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

Hand 1: Nice flop action. On the turn, either check-call or lead the pot. Putting a medium-sized bet out there is just going to build a pot when you either want to keep it small at this point (check-call being the best option) or take it down without a river (lead for pot).

Hand 2: Preflop, I would just call the raise. Disguise you hand, keep chips behind so you can check-raise the player who raised PF when you catch a nice flop, and get away from a flop of say 9QK cheap. 4-low-card hands can get expensive if you're sticking in big re-raises PF. I prefer A23K to A234/5. On the flop, I know you're now committed, but why not just check-call? You're not going to pick up the pot with this bet; therefore, the best option is to try to get maximum callers. But the PF re-raise is the biggest problem with this one.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

Hand 2--At small limits I would only raise with hands that can scoop the whole pot and A235 all offsuit isn't it.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

*for the record* 2 of the wheel cards where suited, making it slightly better than a completely offsuit hand*

I do appreciate the advice though.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

In the first hand you appear to be in early position but with your hand is it still not a pot bet pre flop to try and clear out trash like cybermonkey9? If not why raise pre flop in the second hand out of position? I am still new at pot limit, can anyone clarify.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

I wanted to encourage someone to pot if pre-flop as a steal so I could re-pot it, very aggressive table. That was my only chance as I had awful position. Making it .85 isn't really going to discourage a person who likes to play garbage hands for .25

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

But it does make them pay over 3x as much to play it. Pot it.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

I hate to say it, but the spiteful villains at $25 know that a raise to .85 in EP spells Aces, and gives them more incentives to hit their 2-pair.

I almost hate to see Aces UTG for pot reasons. I really feel you have to limp and pray for raise/re-raise at a full table. Even with UTG+1 or UTG+2 you make a respectable raise. Howver, in LP or on the button you can really juice it up.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

A dry 2 pair is usually a slight dog on the flop to AA with a low draw. I pot it preflop and I don't care one bit if they call with J975 to hit their 2 pair and actually hit it. They are still going to be putting in a lot of money on the flop as a dog. I raise quite a few hands besides AA from EP.

Re: A Couple of $25 Hands
 

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I hate to say it, but the spiteful villains at $25 know that a raise to .85 in EP spells Aces

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That's why you raise other hands too.