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12-19-2005 12:04 AM

BB Special with a C/R
 
No read on the button. He just sat down a few hands ago. Seemed to be very passive as he has called through the streets a few times with mid-low pair.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

River: (6.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

I felt everything was standard here. I threw in the turn C/R because he bet on the flop AND because I completed my straight.

I don't think I did anything wrong here and since he called the turn, there was nothing I could do about the card on the river (because it was not free).

imported_leader 12-19-2005 12:07 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
I'm leading the flop

12-19-2005 12:08 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
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I'm leading the flop

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Could you explain your thought process in regards to the 2 overcards?

Spicymoose 12-19-2005 12:10 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
Interesting hand. I think I might raise preflop, because he limped, so his hand is usually pretty weak, and I think we have significant value. I am not sure about the rest of the hand. I think I usually bet the flop, but I don't know if this is correct. Free cards don't hurt at all, and I don't know if he will call with any worse hands. Therefore I kind of like checking.

Since he bet the flop, I think a turn check raise is fine. The rest of the hand plays out from there.

imported_leader 12-19-2005 12:11 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
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I'm leading the flop

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Could you explain your thought process in regards to the 2 overcards?

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I don't want him to take a free card with a J and he open limped on the button so he has trash a ton more then Ax Kx.

Spicymoose 12-19-2005 12:13 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
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I'm leading the flop

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Could you explain your thought process in regards to the 2 overcards?

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I don't want him to take a free card with a J and he open limped on the button so he has trash a ton more then Ax Kx.

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Free card with a J? He doesn't have a jack THAT often. And when he does, he has all of 3 outs. If he has trash, why bet? Inducing is way better.

Peter Harris 12-19-2005 04:20 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
raise PF

either lead flop + turn or do what you did

nh

well edited.

Spicymoose 12-19-2005 04:42 AM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
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either lead flop + turn or do what you did


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I think I normally bet this flop just out of habit, but the more I think about it, the more I hate it. Checking is good.

fire_fly 12-19-2005 06:48 PM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
grunching

ok, sorry, but i think you played this like sh*t.

When button open limps, he has a crappy hand. So raise with Q 10 for 1. equity, and more importantly, 2. fold equity on the flop when it comes scary cards.

So he limps on the button, you raise, flop comes with an ace, you bet out, he folds pretty much every time.

done.

imported_leader 12-19-2005 07:28 PM

Re: BB Special with a C/R
 
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I'm leading the flop

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Could you explain your thought process in regards to the 2 overcards?

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I don't want him to take a free card with a J and he open limped on the button so he has trash a ton more then Ax Kx.

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Free card with a J? He doesn't have a jack THAT often. And when he does, he has all of 3 outs. If he has trash, why bet? Inducing is way better.

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I'm starting to like checking as well. What if we PFR? The pot's bigger then thus more to protect. I think almost here would autobet the flop, but should we?


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