Typical boring KK hand
 

Villain is 30/10. Earler he reraised all in with JJ preflop, so I really doubt he has jacks, queens, or aces.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter

SB ($306.06)
BB ($259.40)
UTG ($242.02)
UTG+1 ($99)
UTG+2 ($125.10)
MP1 ($98.30)
MP2 ($125.30)
Hero ($94.25)
CO ($136.70)
Button ($101.40)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, UTG+2 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, MP2 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $6.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $6, UTG+2 calls $6, MP1 calls $6, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($45) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, CO folds, SB calls $30, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($105) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero calls $57.25 (All-In), SB calls $57.25.

River: ($219.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $219.50

I don't really see any other line I could have taken with this, yet after he called the turn, I had this sinking feeling that I was up against a set. Is this a standard play at NL100 or do I need to slow down? Are there still enough bad players at this level that I can expect to be called by a flush draw, straight draw, or TP type hand?

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After the pot becomes so inflated preflop, there's no getting away from this.

Re: Typical boring KK hand
 

Very standard. Looks fine. I don't think I slow down here, and even if you did, are you going to let this go even if SB leads into you on the turn? I hope not.

-T

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Make a bigger raise preflop and you don't end up in this weird spot. Gotta push the turn.

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Make a bigger raise preflop and you don't end up in this weird spot. Gotta push the turn.

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My standard raise (and most people's I think) is 4xbb + 1bb for each limper. I occasionally raise more than that if I'm out of position, but I was in good position here. My standard raise would have been $8, but the table was playing tight up until this hand. I raised to $7. My fear is that if I raised any more, everyone would fold. Or, if they didn't fold, they'd only call with a pocket pair and try to spike a set against my obvious big pair.

Do you raise to something like $10 in this situation? What is your experience with that?

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Make a bigger raise preflop and you don't end up in this weird spot. Gotta push the turn.

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My standard raise (and most people's I think) is 4xbb + 1bb for each limper. I occasionally raise more than that if I'm out of position, but I was in good position here. My standard raise would have been $8, but the table was playing tight up until this hand. I raised to $7. My fear is that if I raised any more, everyone would fold. Or, if they didn't fold, they'd only call with a pocket pair and try to spike a set against my obvious big pair.

Do you raise to something like $10 in this situation? What is your experience with that?

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It sucks when they fold to a 8-10 raise, but I feel you need to take that risk. With so many limpers already in, a chain reaction will go off: As soon as one person calls, everyone else will be getting good odds and will often overcall just like in this hand. You want to build huge pots preflop with position when you hold AA-KK. The ideal situation is when 1 player calls and you have a nice sized heads up pot with position. I raise to 10 with AK and many other hands if the table has been limping and folding to raises, so I usually can get away with making it 10 with AA.

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I would push the flop. Flush draws almost always call anyway, because they are tards. TJ wil also call, which rules because you have 2 of his outs.

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without a PFA i'd say 66 or 99 the way it was played by villain. if PFA &gt; 2 then flush draw.

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Am I reading this right? You called the All in? Who pushed SB? It looks standard...

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Flush draws almost always call anyway, because they are tards. TJ wil also call

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This is very shaky reasoning. The only thing calling a push is a set.