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PoorLawyer 12-14-2005 03:27 PM

adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
I have been playing 2/4 with a .25 ante and $1 BI for a while now and me do good. I jumped up and have been playing a lot of 3/6 with .5 ante and 1 BI, and 5/10 with .5 ante and 2 BI.

For some reason I seem to do a lot better at the 5/10 than the 3/6. Is this just the way I am running right now or is there some adjustment that I need to be making for the different structures?

djr 12-14-2005 04:45 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
I've also recently made the move upward from 2/4 and have been doing better at 5/10 than 3/6. I'm curious how people respond to your post.

BTirish 12-14-2005 05:03 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
Well, I don't know if this actually speaks to the reason why you're doing better... but with the same ante but relatively higher bet sizes, the 5/10 game is going to reward tight, conservative play. If you're playing basically the same game that you were at 2/4 with .25 ante or 1/2 with .10 ante (stars game), you should expect to do well at 5/10 .50 because the structure is similar (it's almost in perfect proportion to the 1/2 .10 game).

To win well in the 3/6 game long term, you have to be willing to mix it up and to fight for the antes. Raises on 4th to make the pot heads up are a lot more important--basically, a lot of the stuff advised in 7csfap applies to the 3/6 because it is a high ante game.

However, I have often wondered if the 3/6 game is hard to beat because people refuse to be pushed out of pots. I had a good win rate there, but I <know> that the major reason why was that my cards were running well. I had a really bad downswing before I stopped playing for the semester, and I would have won a lot of those pots if my 4th street raises had accomplished what they were intended to do. I don't want to be one of the stupid "it's hard to beat bad players" idiots, but in a game with a high ante I wonder if it's high variance with higher expectation or in fact harder to beat.

Spladle Master 12-14-2005 06:44 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
3/6 structure requires much looser play than 5/10. You gotta get in there and gamble a bit, that's all, or the antes will eat you alive.

12-14-2005 11:39 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
Could be the way you're running right now, but also take into consideration the Ante to BI ratio. It makes sense you're doing better in the 5 vs the 3, the ratio has a much greater advantage to the more disciplined player. JMO...

Chris Daddy Cool 12-15-2005 12:15 AM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
you're talking about strictly stud hi right?

with the higher ante ratio at 3/6 you're gonna be playing a little bit more hands so your variance is going to be a little higher than in 5/10. also it could be that you're not adjusting properly for looser play too, but imo it doesn't really matter that much between the two as they still play pretty similiarly.

frappeboy 12-15-2005 05:56 AM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
Basically you should be playing more borderline hands, like if a ten raises and you have (4A)4 and all your cards are live you should probably re-raise at the 3/6 structure. Also, be more willing to call 4th street when you brick out with 3 flushes. I also like to play more hands like 8s with a straight flush kicker even if there are 3 bigger cards behind me.

lane mcbride 12-15-2005 07:32 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
people advocate raising more at 3-6 because the ante is higher, but, in my opinion, that's not necessarily correct. (slightly more correct yes, but I think people overestimate how much more correct)

say you are playing 2-4 8 handed with a .25 cent ante and a 1 dollar bring in.
on a steal, you are getting 3-2
or 1.5 to 1

on 3-6 with a 50 cent ante
you are getting 5-3 or 1.66 to 1

so, it isn't really that big of a difference.
since raising the bring in triples the bet at 3-6 and only doubles it at 2-4.

preiserone 12-15-2005 07:41 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
I think steals work more often in 3/6 because of the triple bring in completion. Your risking more but it is more likely that everyone will fold. More antes in the pot only sweetens the deal.
In short, steals hardly ever work in 2/4 in my experience. 3/6 you've got a chance.

lane mcbride 12-15-2005 07:49 PM

Re: adjustments for 3/6 and 5/10
 
very true, depending on the game...


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