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golfcchs 10-30-2005 09:59 PM

(22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx

BB (t2757)
UTG (t310)
MP (t1055)
Button (t2220)
Hero (t1658)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t350</font>, BB calls t250.

Flop: (t700) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Hero bets 700, BB raise all in, Hero calls
Turn: (t700) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t700) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t3316

BB is a slightly loose tricky player. He got his chips reraising QQ all in on 75 raise level 2 and limp reraising QQ early level 3. Dont know if it is worth having this confrontation with the big stack when I will be out of position on the flop.

splashpot 10-30-2005 10:01 PM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
You're pretty much commiting yourself with your flop bet. You should probably just lead the flop with an all in.

golfcchs 10-30-2005 10:05 PM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
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You're pretty much commiting yourself with your flop bet. You should probably just lead the flop with an all in.


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Ya I know just though I could get more value by not pushing.

My real question here is do you raise preflop? If so how much? Do you ever limp here?

MissOt 10-31-2005 01:01 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
fold pf

splashpot 10-31-2005 01:06 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
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fold pf

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Folding is way too tight. The blinds are high enough to raise this from the SB.

MissOt 10-31-2005 01:17 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
oh didnt see he was sb

SammyKid11 10-31-2005 01:33 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
Actually, I like the way you played this hand. Of course you're raising KQ from the SB at Level 4. And I think betting the flop like you did is okay, too - it gives BB reason to believe he can get you to fold by pushing. Sure, sometimes you'll see AA-KK, AQ, 77, or 55...but I think a lot more times you'll see something like QTs or 99 or worse. IMO, good play.

Scuba Chuck 10-31-2005 02:32 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
Don't second guess this hand. I forget it in a heartbeat and start a new one. Unless there is some trick to learn...

psyduck 10-31-2005 02:36 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
played fine throughout.

edit: one thing though - you know that big stacks have looser calling standards. I'd complete sometimes and check/fold a missed flop. because he has position on you, hand becomes harder to play when you miss the flop and you raise PF. do you c-bet? do you check/fold?

Pat Southern 10-31-2005 02:44 AM

Re: (22) Avoid confrontation with big stack?
 
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You're pretty much commiting yourself with your flop bet. You should probably just lead the flop with an all in.

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This is the best way to win the minimum while still losing the max. I'd bet 400 on the flop and call a push.


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