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parttimepro 02-28-2005 06:09 PM

Saabpo results
 
I searched for saabpo the bot on pokerprophecy.com. Here are the results:

Player
saabpo

Games played
70

Wins
23 (32.86%)

Losses
47 (67.14%)

Average value wagered
$20

Players with better winning percentage
71537

Players with worse winning percentage
146576

$20 Table:
23 wins / 47 losses

Wow! So saabpo is in the 33rd percentile for ITM finishes! He probably didn't come out ahead, because I think his strategy is especially bad for short-handed play, so his ITM finishes are likely skewed towards 3rd place. Still, that's pretty impressive for such a simple strategy. Plus, at least towards the end of his run, he was playing against a lot of 2+2ers, who are presumably better than average PP players.

So, if you're playing the $22 games, and you're not beating the crap out of them, you must suck.

Also, props to whoever put up www.saabpo.com.

dfscott 02-28-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
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So, if you're playing the $22 games, and you're not beating the crap out of them, you must suck.

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Whew! I'm glad it's the 11s that I'm not beating the crap out of -- I'd hate to find out that I suck.

gasgod 02-28-2005 06:35 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
Somebody posted a breakdown of its Firsts, seconds, and thirds. its play over the session was within a buy-in of break even, IIRC.

I am afraid for the future of on-line poker. It would be easy to reprogram saabpo to be virtually undetectable, and there are obviously many improvements that could be made in its strategy.

GG

The Armchair 02-28-2005 07:02 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
I know on a lot of levels bots are bad, but this one was even a bad poker player. At best it lost almost 20 tournament buy-ins.

jackdaniels 02-28-2005 08:07 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
Not to detract from the rest of the post - but that link is hillarious!

The Yugoslavian 02-28-2005 08:46 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
You do realize these results are completely meaningless, right?

What's more indicative of Saabpo's strength is watching him play. And while I have not (consistent with my original 'meh' comment in regards to the whole saabpo thing) I've heard its play is perhaps better than a weak fish but certainly nowhere near a solid 2+2er and likely -EV over the long run anyway (or *perhaps* slightly +EV).

And yes, I understand that saabpo is representative of a deeper concern that good to very good bots may appear in hordes and kill all the online games.

Yugoslav

spentrent 02-28-2005 09:40 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
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Not to detract from the rest of the post - but that link is hillarious!

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I'm glad you dig it. [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

ilya 02-28-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
[ QUOTE ]

Still, that's pretty impressive for such a simple strategy. Plus, at least towards the end of his run, he was playing against a lot of 2+2ers, who are presumably better than average PP players.

So, if you're playing the $22 games, and you're not beating the crap out of them, you must suck.

[/ QUOTE ]

Your conclusion does not follow from your premises.

bweiser8311962 02-28-2005 11:41 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
I'd take these results.

By my quick calculations, he has spent $1540 in entry fees and earned $2300 ... just from 23 wins. Add in a few more 2nds and 3rds from the LOSS column and he's probably up about a grand. Not bad.

curtains 02-28-2005 11:42 PM

Re: Saabpo results
 
a win is any finish in the top 3, not a first place finish.


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