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12-14-2005 01:07 AM

ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
What's my line here? I'm obviously not super short on chips, but I'm not great either. I don't remember too many reads, except that MP1 had something like a 77% VPIP. I considered folding this pre-flop, but I figured that in an unraised pot there was a decent chance that I had the best A. I know I throw this away a lot, but I think I pick up the pot very often when an A comes out. If I remember the table correctly (and I may not), I get paid off by some worse aces at least sometimes. Plus, I have position.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) converter

BB (t985)
UTG (t980)
UTG+1 (t590)
MP1 (t975)
MP2 (t605)
MP3 (t1140)
CO (t735)
Hero (t695)
SB (t1295)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t50, MP2 calls t50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t50, Hero calls t50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t300) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Hero...

12-14-2005 02:33 AM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
My first thought was to just muck this preflop.

I changed my mind and i think a push could be a decent play here depending on reads, pushing 695 to pick up 225 here is a big help to your stack.

p.s. i hate the call

12-14-2005 02:37 AM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
This early, with this many people, I'd fold this pre-flop. But as it is, I would probably put in a pot-size bet or maybe a little less. Anybody with an A is going to call (in my opinion), and people without an A will not like this flop very much (if they didn't flop a monster).

tigerite 12-14-2005 11:23 AM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
Fold on the button with ATo and three limpers..? Seems awful weak-tight to me. Well, anyway, you have to bet this I think, for value if nothing else. I hate how it's a dry flop though so AJ/AQ/AK could be in there (though the last two, you would hope, would raise pf). I don't agree with pushing though. There's absolutely no need.

12-14-2005 11:30 AM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
I bet the flop for t250, it's a nice situation because it looks so much like a bluff due to the 5 checks ahead, and therefore you'll get worse hands than usual looking you up, I'm probably going to the felt with this hand if I'm raised... just because I see so often middle pocket pairs coming over the top, thinking you're buying the pot.

PF I also limp along, I'm on the button and the pot is nice, I'll happily take a flop, I agree that folding does just seem too weak/tight.

liucipher 12-14-2005 11:58 AM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
What would you do here if there were only 2 limpers? 1 limper?

Would you be still inclined to limp the former and raise the latter? Or maybe fold since your pot odds decrease?

*confused about these marginal hands in the 7-12xBB zone*

tigerite 12-14-2005 11:59 AM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
2 limpers, I'd have to give it some thought. 1 limper, I may well shove, dependant on reads.

12-14-2005 12:08 PM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
[ QUOTE ]
1 limper, I may well shove, dependant on reads.

[/ QUOTE ]

Seriously? To win t125? Doesn't seem right to me?

tigerite 12-14-2005 12:08 PM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
As I say it depends on reads.. if it's a donk for instance he is unlikely to have ATo beat anyways. If it's a solid player, I probably wouldn't do it.

liucipher 12-14-2005 12:09 PM

Re: ATo in 6-way pot ($11)
 
Really? Hero has 14xBB 9-handed and he's in the middle of the pack. Blinds won't hit him for 7 hands or something. Would you really shove to pick up 2.5xBB w/ just one limper?

I feel like I'd be more inclined to shove w/ 3 limpers - putting all my chips at risk for 4.5xBB starts sounding like the reward part of the risk/reward ratio is getting attractive.

Or is the risk part of getting called rise too quickly w/ 3 limpers?


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