400 66 UTG hand---corrected b/c i am a moron
 

party 400 6 max, 5 handed, effective stacks 900

I have 66 UTG and make it 12, folded the the sb who calls, bb calls.

flop is 457r pot 36

sb checks, BB bets 30, i call, sb folds.

turn is an offsuit 8, pot 96

BB bets 200, i just call.

river is a 7 496

he bets 250, I call.

comments, raise the flop or turn, do anyhting differently?
dave

Re: 400 66 UTG hand
 

Is playing $1000 pots with unimproved 66 your default play, or have you simply omitted all of the relevent information from your post?

Re: 400 66 UTG hand
 

Maybe raise the flop and check behind on the turn? As played on the turn, I'm suprised you called his 2xPSB. Is he bluffing that often? Your odds aren't really there for the OESD.

Re: 400 66 UTG hand
 

yes. i fold.
also probably call or raise to 16 utg

corrected
 

sorry, as i corrected teh flop was 457, not 357, and i turned a str8.
dave

Re: corrected
 

Depends a LOT on the villain. Against tighter villains whose bets mean real strength I like a push on the turn. Even if the board is scary, it also looks bluff-friendly, he'll probably look you up with a set. If he is on air a lot I like the call, regardless, I wouldn't do anything other than call on the river. Against some villains I might fold, you only beat a bluff really, and a tie becomes less likely since you have two of the sixes.

Re: 400 66 UTG hand---corrected b/c i am a moron
 

Your draw is pretty much the only one out there so the only reason to raise flop is to get 88-TT to fold, but too often he has set / 2-pair / str8 & blows you off your draw, so calling is better.

When he bets the turn again I think he almost always has 1 pair beaten. Your hand is quite well disguised so its best to just raise it up now.

As played the river is a fold against solid opposition, though I can definitely see myself calling (& regretting it) against an unknown.

results
 

he had 75 and i lost. as soon as i just called the turn i knew i [censored] up, i should have pushed the turn or at the very least put in a really big raise. failing that i think i need to fold the river, and i considered it and decided to fold just as my hand clicked call. but i won't make that mistake again, thanks for the replies.
dave

Re: 400 66 UTG hand---corrected b/c i am a moron
 

bad beat alert

push the turn

Re: 400 66 UTG hand---corrected b/c i am a moron
 

No read on BB? I am very tempted to fold this on the flop in all honesty. Turn is really weird. I would probably push once you get there. I love pushing over overbets. They always call.

Edit: Now that I read the thread I just thought I would explain that you actually are in a terrible spot on the flop in terms of implied odds/reverse implied odds, hence the tendency to fold. You're not getting pot odds, you're not gonna get paid if you hit, a 6 is quite possibly no good but you're gonna pay to find out, you have no idea if your straight outs are good but you're gonna pay to find out. Just yuck. Your hand is not a good one on the flop.