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A_C_Slater 12-09-2004 11:20 AM

Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
The blinds are at 1.5/3k

I have about 7300 after posting in the BB with 76s.
This is a turbo tournament and the blinds are about to go up again in about two minutes. There are 3 all ins by the time it gets to me and only one of them had less chips than me. There are 28 players remaining (pays top 30.) I figure that all 3 of them must have big overcards or at very worst high pocket pairs. I am getting about 4 to 1 odds with my suited connectors. If I call and win I become chip leader and have a good chance at winning the whole thing. If I fold I will have to go all in by the next orbit. If I'm lucky I might get dealt Ace rag to go all in with, does anyone fold this? Is this an autocall situation?


I ended up calling and the hands turned over by my 3 opponents were A8o AKo and KTo, seems the other 2 were getting desperate as well. The board missed everyone (I had a open end straight and flush draw miss) AK high took the pot.

A_C_Slater 12-09-2004 12:30 PM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
Can no one help me? Is the question too easy? To challenging? Won't a wise veteran show me the way?

kuro 12-09-2004 01:17 PM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
Unless the money jumps significantly between like 28 and 25, then this is definitely an auto-call. You've got fabulous pot odds. If you punch up the hands you were against in an odds calculator you are virtually tied with the AK guy as the favorite to win.

A_C_Slater 12-09-2004 01:28 PM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
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Unless the money jumps significantly between like 28 and 25, then this is definitely an auto-call. You've got fabulous pot odds. If you punch up the hands you were against in an odds calculator you are virtually tied with the AK guy as the favorite to win.

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But I didn't know he had AK. What if they held QQ,KK,AA. I know that is absurd, but it is merely an extreme example for sake of determing if a call is correct no matter what.

schwza 12-09-2004 01:28 PM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
this also the perfect scenario for hero: no overpair, and the others are sharing a lot of outs. but even in a more reasonable scenario like:

pokenum -h 9c 9d - ac kd - ks js - 7d 6d
Holdem Hi: 1086008 enumerated boards
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
9c 9d 343109 31.59 740082 68.15 2817 0.26 0.317
Ac Kd 283426 26.10 792354 72.96 10228 0.94 0.265
Ks Js 247102 22.75 828678 76.30 10228 0.94 0.232
7d 6d 202143 18.61 881048 81.13 2817 0.26 0.187

i think you've got odds to call (haven't done the math).

schwza 12-09-2004 01:29 PM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
check for yourself at two dimes

RavenJackson 12-09-2004 02:12 PM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
I agree. Auto-call. At least you are playing two live cards...sooted.

captZEEbo1 12-10-2004 12:15 AM

Re: Call 3 all ins with 76s in the BB?
 
I don't agree that this is an AUTO-CALL. Everyone I run into seems to say that if you have pot odds, it is worth it. Depending on stack sizes of people and fold equity (I'm not really sure exactly how these speed tournaments end up going), but if you jeopardize TOO many of your chips in a "pot odds" hand, you will lose FOLD EQUITY of later steals etc. You don't want to decimate your stack so YOU can't steal. My opinion is that it might be a fold situation. Remember, you don't NEED Ace-rag to go allin. That is, if the whole table isn't really desperate for a double and has been willing to call allins with A-rag


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