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1C5 12-21-2005 10:12 AM

QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
No reads, 1st level.

How do you handle this:
at the a) 33s and under
b) 55s or 109s
c)215s and +?


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter

Button (t775)
Hero (t840)
BB (t620)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t770)
MP3 (t770)
CO (t1025)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t30</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t125</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero ?

tigerite 12-21-2005 10:24 AM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
1) Push (this is automatic with t800 chips)
2a) $55s almost certainly push
2b) $109 push if (i) never seen CO before, or (ii) have seen him and he's a donk
3) Never played them yet, but I'd imagine the same as the $109

12-21-2005 11:17 AM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
Me? I call, then check-raise all in any flop without A or K.

I also don't mini-raise ever. My guess is that the Villain is reacting to your mini-raise as much as anything else, and is trying to isolate what appears to be a loose player with a weakish hand.

1C5 12-21-2005 12:07 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
I didn't min raise.

12-21-2005 12:13 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
If the BB is 15 and you raise to 30, that's a mini-raise.

I raise probably to 80-100 here, as people will still often incorrectly call even that with small-medium pocket pairs and suited cards.

1C5 12-21-2005 12:16 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
Thanks for the lesson on min raises, should I give you a lesson on how to read a HH now?

downtown 12-21-2005 12:18 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
[ QUOTE ]
If the BB is 15 and you raise to 30, that's a mini-raise.

I raise probably to 80-100 here, as people will still often incorrectly call even that with small-medium pocket pairs and suited cards.

[/ QUOTE ]

You're confused, hero is SB not UTG.

I would push in a 33 or 55.

I would push or call in a 109.

45suited 12-21-2005 12:21 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Thanks for the lesson on min raises, should I give you a lesson on how to read a HH now?

[/ QUOTE ]

pwned

12-21-2005 12:32 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
Does anyone consider folding? I don't play 33's or 55's - I can assume they are donkfests, but at the higher levels there is no reason to get tangled with as vulnerable a hand as QQ this early. I would need proper odds for hitting a set to play this on 7/15, or perhaps a sizable raise (90 or 100) and then 4 callers - in that case, and in that case only - I would push and take 400 chips, if I feel table is donkish.

tigerite 12-21-2005 12:48 PM

Re: QQ Preflop: How does the buy in determine how you play this hand?
 
QQ vulnerable?! Wow.


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