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TxSteve 11-30-2005 01:58 AM

Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Pretty sure my nephew is doing things he shouldn't be doing. His and his friends' myspace pages have pics of them stoned...pics of a bong...

what idiots they are.

my personal opinion is that smoking pot is a terrible thing for a 16 year old to be doing (he already does badly in school).

Should I tell my sister? and if so how.

dblgutshot 11-30-2005 01:59 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
TxSteve,

You need to link us to the myspace page.

ChipWrecked 11-30-2005 02:00 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
IMO, you threaten to tell her unless he kicks up a bud from every bag he scores to you.

TxSteve 11-30-2005 02:00 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
nice try. but no. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Mason Hellmuth 11-30-2005 02:03 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
I voted no, but I was wrong. Anonymously send her a link to the MySpace.

Warik 11-30-2005 02:04 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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Should I tell my sister?

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Yes.

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and if so how.

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"<insert sister's name here> your son is smoking marijuana. Please visit www.myspace.com/<whatever>/ for evidence. You owe me sexual favors from one of your hot friends. See ya."

Sightless 11-30-2005 02:04 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
16 years old? Rat him out annonymously like Mason hellmuth suggested...

If he was 18 or so.. i would not do it, but IMO 16 is too young

Warik 11-30-2005 02:05 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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I voted no, but I was wrong. Anonymously send her a link to the MySpace.

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This method pwns my method.

I neglected the fact that your nephew might hate you if he knows it was you.

(However, if he already hates you, break the news to mommy in front of him for added dramatic effect!)

craig r 11-30-2005 02:06 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
What if it was pictures of him and his friends drunk, beer cans, etc...would you want possibly want to tell her?

craig

fluxrad 11-30-2005 02:07 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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he already does badly in school

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Combined with the fact that he was dumb enough to get caught by someone who's in a position to get it back to his mom, the above quote seals the deal.

I say this as an ex-pothead who thinks that just about every 16-21 year old should smoke weed at least a few times.

11-30-2005 02:08 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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IMO, you threaten to tell her unless he kicks up a bud from every bag he scores to you.

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Even if you don't smoke, you can increase your BR buy selling the confiscated weed. +EV
Of course don't get caught. Jail is -EV

PoBoy321 11-30-2005 02:08 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Uh, why isn't talking to the nephew yourself an option?

TxSteve 11-30-2005 02:09 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
she already knows he has occasionaly drank (bad english ftw).

she does not approve of that...but isn't sure how to combat it. she is reluctant to do the sort of drastic things that i would think need to be done...like grounding him forever...or not letting him hang out with those kids that he drinks with.

i'm thinking thinking that if she sees that his partying is a bit more serious....then she'll be forced to be more serious about it. the goal; after all is for him to keep his braincells...not get anyone pregnant...not kill or hurt himself or anyone else driving drunk...and grow up to get the most out of life that he can

PoBoy321 11-30-2005 02:12 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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she already knows he has occasionaly drank (bad english ftw).

she does not approve of that...but isn't sure how to combat it. she is reluctant to do the sort of drastic things that i would think need to be done...like grounding him forever...or not letting him hang out with those kids that he drinks with.

i'm thinking thinking that if she sees that his partying is a bit more serious....then she'll be forced to be more serious about it. the goal; after all is for him to keep his braincells...not get anyone pregnant...not kill or hurt himself or anyone else driving drunk...and grow up to get the most out of life that he can

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Wait, so are you concerned about him smoking pot, or doing illicit things in general?

jgorham 11-30-2005 02:15 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
It really depends on how mature of a 16 yr old he is. I was smoking pot at 13, and it actually did me a lot of good. But I think that is a fairly rare occurance. But a lot of 16 yr olds are truly old enough to handle it. If you think he falls into this camp, then I think you should bring it up with him, and threaten to tell his mom if it gets out of hand - starts skipping classes or something. Just save the pic's as evidence.

Going to his mom directly would probably damage your relationship pretty severely, and I think that is a consideration as well (unless there are multiple relatives who could have ratted him out).

If you really think it is doing him harm, then go to his mother. But only then.

bholdr 11-30-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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my personal opinion is that smoking pot is a terrible thing for a 16 year old to be doing (he already does badly in school).

Should I tell my sister? and if so how.

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i didn't read all the responses, but i do have a couple thoughts- apologies if they're redundant:

A: It's none of yer damn business.
B: it IS bad for a 16 year old to be getting high- on anything. 18, whatever, but 16... i wish i hadn't done so many drugs at that age.
C: What are you a rat!? no telling his mom. NARC! NARC! (also, that'd be a great way to sour your relationship with the kid forever. don't burn bridges)

and, most importantly...

D: Talk to him. If you care about this kid, then man-up and deal with yourself. have a heart-to-heart, tell some stories, give him some information, make sure he's not being unsafe, etc...

that's your play. any other route is WEAK SAUCE.

11-30-2005 02:17 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
moral of the story?

if you're a girl under the age of 12 and you're high on marijuana, don't ride your bike.

Mason Hellmuth 11-30-2005 02:18 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Ordinarily I would say no, it's none of your business.

But if he's dumb enough to post pictures on the web, it's like he's asking to get caught.

tripdad 11-30-2005 02:32 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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my personal opinion is that smoking pot is a terrible thing for a 16 year old to be doing (he already does badly in school).

Should I tell my sister? and if so how.

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i didn't read all the responses, but i do have a couple thoughts- apologies if they're redundant:

A: It's none of yer damn business.
B: it IS bad for a 16 year old to be getting high- on anything. 18, whatever, but 16... i wish i hadn't done so many drugs at that age.
C: What are you a rat!? no telling his mom. NARC! NARC! (also, that'd be a great way to sour your relationship with the kid forever. don't burn bridges)

and, most importantly...

D: Talk to him. If you care about this kid, then man-up and deal with yourself. have a heart-to-heart, tell some stories, give him some information, make sure he's not being unsafe, etc...

that's your play. any other route is WEAK SAUCE.

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bad advice. he needs to tell his sister. pot is not just "bad for" a 16 year old boy or girl...it is exteremely risky and could very well end up being deadly. i don't know how old you are, but mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

and who cares if the 16 year old boy likes his uncle, anyway? what a ridiculous argument against trying to help him.

for the record, my own nephew's life(17 now) is an absolute wreck because of it. he did get to come home for thanksgiving from the treatment center the judge sentenced him to, but decided to run when it was time to go back on friday. i found out where he was Saturday morning, and flagged down a policeman i know that i saw on my way to detain him myself, then watched them handcuff him and take him into custody.

i don't care if he hates me right now because i know he loves me.

tripdad

Mason Hellmuth 11-30-2005 02:35 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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it is exteremely risky and could very well end up being deadly. i don't know how old you are, but mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

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Are you serious? The ignorance in this post is astounding.

11-30-2005 02:37 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Here's the deal. I found out that my 16 yr old cousins had smoked pot. I made a deal with them: As long as they never EVER EVER did it on school days, or more than 4 times a month, I wouldn't tell their dad. I also gave them the advice to never smoke with anyone they don't know and trust extremely well.

I have actually smoked with them once. However, they do well in school, and I believe are mature enough not to get obsessed with it (and two years later that has proven true). Just telling mommy, or taking it away from them doesnt solve [censored], it only makes them want to do it more.

Weed is not nearly as harmful as alcohol, IMO, course Im in NORML.

Bottom line, you need to feel this one out for yourself, if they would respect you laying down the law on them, do it, they'll be grateful they didnt get caught by mommy, and pay more attention to you.

However, if you feel that this will get out of control, by all means, do what is necessary to fix the problem.

EDIT: Im only 21, so it wasnt like I was a 30 yr old smoking out 16 yr olds, I just came at them with the attitude of an older brother, and they respected me for it.

good luck.

snorer 11-30-2005 02:38 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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for the record, my own nephew's life(17 now) is an absolute wreck because of it.

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I'd be willing to bet he's a wreck for other reasons and the pot is just incidental.

11-30-2005 02:38 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
you are a [censored] moron, moran.

IndieMatty 11-30-2005 02:41 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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it is exteremely risky and could very well end up being deadly. i don't know how old you are, but mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

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Are you serious? The ignorance in this post is astounding.

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Yeah, like wow. My god. Deadly?

To the OP; probably let her know. Kid's dumb enough to have it up on the internet for everyone to see, he needs some guidance (maybe just you?). And this is coming from someone who is just like fluxrad. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

craig r 11-30-2005 02:41 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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it is exteremely risky and could very well end up being deadly. i don't know how old you are, but mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

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Are you serious? The ignorance in this post is astounding.

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Well, it can only lead to this

lapoker17 11-30-2005 02:42 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Your loyalty is to your sister - at least mine would be to my sister - not my fing nephew. Do what you think she would want you to do.

KDawgCometh 11-30-2005 02:43 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
no. He will be found out on his own in his own time. Its not your place to rat him out

billyjex 11-30-2005 02:43 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
smoking pot at 16 years old is much more common than you realize.

and why are you browsing your nephew's myspace pages? that's a little creepy, buddy.

11-30-2005 02:43 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Um, not to jump on my NORML pulpit, but weed never killed anyone, and its not a gateway drug. The same morons spout that that claim violent videogames make kids violent, and that marilyn manson is to blame for columbine.

Grow the [censored] up and raise your kids.

ripdog 11-30-2005 03:06 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Does your sister really not know? In this day and age? Man, maybe ratting her out for being so dense would be the way to go here. Seriously though, I think your move depends on your relationship with the kid. I think that ratting him out is a gigantic pussy move. If you have any credibility on the subject, talk to him yourself. By credibility I mean that you've smoked a fair amount yourself and have seen the error of your ways. If you were a straight-laced valedictorian type at his age--forget it. Find someone that can relate to the kid and have them approach him. Maybe that's your sister or his dad, maybe not. I would never have forgiven one of my uncle's for tattling on me and I think you'll destroy any shot at a relationship with him if you go the tattle-tail route.

Maulik 11-30-2005 03:21 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
if the kid is doing it recreationally that's fine. if he's got some wholesome friends, no worries.

where are this kids priorities?

we've seen brillaint potheads at school and kids who fail out of school... likely falls into one or another.

CORed 11-30-2005 03:21 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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it is exteremely risky and could very well end up being deadly. i don't know how old you are, but mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

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Are you serious? The ignorance in this post is astounding.

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Based on all the anti-marijuana propaganda I have read for the last 30 years, I can state unequivicolly that the marijuana on the streets now is 10,000 times as strong as it was in 1970. Also, it will make you oversexed, impotent, cause males to grow breasts (where are all the males with breasts? With all the folks that have been smoking pot all these years, we should see a few, don't you think?), make you agitated and violent, as well as passive and unmotivated.

Seriously, the idea that stronger pot is more dangerous is silly. It is simply impossible to ingest anything close to a lethal dose. Beyond a certain dosage, marijuana ceases to be pleasurable, and will give you a splitting headache. So, stronger pot means you smoke less, probably doing less damage to your lungs. Lung damage and lung cancer are probably the worst health consequences of smoking pot.

That said, I don't think it's all that good for a 16 year old to be smoking pot. However, it really depends on how much/ how often he is smoking and whether it is adversely affecting his school perfromance and attendance.

11-30-2005 03:32 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
I cant believe more people dont know about vaporizers, but c'est la vie...

anyways, along the lines of the propaganda, did you know that anti-marijuana sentiment was started in the last century by a power-hungry government official with the Treasury?

It's ridiculous what people will believe, they first started out by saying that weed will make you kill people.

Weed is more potent than it used to be from the standpoint that there has been a monumental increase in the hobby/science of culturing particular strands for their highs.

However, as an above poster stated, when I take a hit off of a good strain, one hit, about a tenth or fifteenth of a gram is enough for 1-4 hours, depending on the strain.

bholdr 11-30-2005 03:34 AM

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bad advice. he needs to tell his sister.

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maybe. BUT... shouldn't he talk to the kid first? no? really?

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pot is not just "bad for" a 16 year old boy or girl...it is exteremely risky and could very well end up being deadly.

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It IS risky... if it's used irresponsibly. Deadly? stupid stoners might risk their lives... but the oprative term in the foregoing sentance is 'STUPID', not 'stoner'.

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i found out where he was Saturday morning, and flagged down a policeman i know that i saw on my way to detain him myself, then watched them handcuff him and take him into custody.


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whatever, square.

craig r 11-30-2005 03:40 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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I cant believe more people dont know about vaporizers, but c'est la vie...

anyways, along the lines of the propaganda, did you know that anti-marijuana sentiment was started in the last century by a power-hungry government official with the Treasury?

It's ridiculous what people will believe, they first started out by saying that weed will make you kill people.

Weed is more potent than it used to be from the standpoint that there has been a monumental increase in the hobby/science of culturing particular strands for their highs.

However, as an above poster stated, when I take a hit off of a good strain, one hit, about a tenth or fifteenth of a gram is enough for 1-4 hours, depending on the strain.

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I know a few years ago the prime minister of some european country apologized for the drug war with regards to marijuana. And went out of his way to also apologize for saying that marijuana was a "gateway" drug. He claimed there was no evidence of this and that is was irresponsible of his government to make claims like this without evidence. I can't remember the name of the country though. Maybe Norway?

craig

MonkeeMan 11-30-2005 03:42 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
Call 1-800-NARC. Let them break the news to sis during the big swat operation. They probably won't find her stash.

chabibi 11-30-2005 03:45 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
I’ve been smoking pot excessively since grade 10 and it never did any real damage to my life (other than possibly my health later on). In high school I went to every class blitzed and the same thing in university. Im pretty much high 24/7 but I am not a screw up. I will be graduating university in the spring and I already have a job lined up after graduation. Despite being a heavy drug user, my life is in order. But I could definitely see how even weed could [censored] up someones life. I personally know many people with as frequent a habit as mine. Some have become low lives and some are productive members of society, I think it all depends on the person.

I caught my little brother smoking weed this summer (he’s 15). I never actually caught him red handed I came home and the stem to my bong was missing. When he came home I asked him where it was and he pulled it out of his pocket. I was kind of upset, but I didn’t get angry at him, I took the stem and walked in to the garage and smoked some bowls. I couldn’t really yell at him without being a hypocrite I started puffing at that age. I also trust my brother to make good decisions. High school was the greatest time of my life and being stoned made it a lot better. I want my bro to have a good experience as well, as long as he steps up when it matters. Which I think he will

I guess it all comes down to the kid. If your nephew is a little punk and is clearly headed down the wrong path, rat his ass out. If hes a good kid having some fun and maybe getting a little carried away you could talk to him yourself or let it slide this time, he might fix the problem himself.

11-30-2005 03:47 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
TALK TO THE KID!

I did it as a non-authority figure, and they respected me much more for it. The dangers can be well avoided, with some good advice. That is, if the dangers are resultant from naivete, and not from them being a screwup in the first place.

bobbyi 11-30-2005 04:37 AM

Re: Do you rat out your 16 year old nephew if you think he\'s toking?
 
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mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

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No, that's just what 33 year olds tell themselves to rationalize why it was okay for them to do it when they were young, but is totally dangerous for their children now and will destroy their lives.

craig r 11-30-2005 04:48 AM

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mary jane is a LOT different than it was when i was 16 (17 years ago).

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No, that's just what 33 year olds tell themselves to rationalize why it was okay for them to do it when they were young, but is totally dangerous for their children now and will destroy their lives.

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Imagine what Bill Clinton and G.W. Bush have to tell their kids, "uhhh..don't do drugs or you will..well, it will, well, ummm...well, it was different when we did drugs. We didn't know we would end up being the president of the U.S."


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