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captZEEbo1 10-02-2005 08:35 PM

5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
6 handed 5/10 nl
my hand: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

folded to me on button (1475), SB folds BB calls (covers)

flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot: 75)
SB checks, Hero bets 75, SB makes it 200 all day, I make it 500 all day, SB calls

turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (pot 1075)
SB checks, Hero goes allin for 930

Anyone? Only street I'm confident of is preflop.

xorbie 10-02-2005 08:40 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
Uh.. what's the problem? Can't check behind on that turn, so what if he has KQ.

BobboFitos 10-02-2005 08:42 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
lookin' good in the neighborhood

captZEEbo1 10-02-2005 08:45 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
well what range of hands calls turn push that I'm ahead of? Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here?

Yeti 10-02-2005 08:49 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
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Nobody thinks a turn check is okay here?

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WTF?

I would either just call his raise on the flop, or more likely, stick it all in.

Rocaix 10-02-2005 08:55 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
In a vaccum this looks fine to me, he probably has a smaller set, JT, or maybe an Overpair on the flop. A mediocre draw probably folds to a flop 3-bet, and big draws probably just sticks it all-in.

An alternative higher variance line (if you don't 3-bet the flop very often)would be to just call the check-raise and push over the top on the turn. This squeezes a little extra value out of him if he decided to get frisky with a draw on the flop and will follow through on the turn when he misses. But of course any [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],7,9,orA will make you a bit uncomfortable on the turn.

fsuplayer 10-03-2005 01:00 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
your 3bet size on the flop screams a monster, moving in is muchhhhhhhhhhhhh better here.

and hey, it solves the whole sticky turn problem as well.

jetsg4 10-03-2005 02:24 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
i like it.... the NL section of 2+2 is the land of "Overbet Pot Lovers"... i hate almost all over pot bets, i doubt he's calling your raise with kq unless it's the k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

if he had that draw though, i believe you would have heard back from him on flop, or you would have if it were me.. most of time.

ObnxNole 10-03-2005 05:00 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
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i like it.... the NL section of 2+2 is the land of "Overbet Pot Lovers"... i hate almost all over pot bets, i doubt he's calling your raise with kq unless it's the k [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

if he had that draw though, i believe you would have heard back from him on flop, or you would have if it were me.. most of time.

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That line of thinking is retarded. An overbet of the pot does not always mean someone has the mortal nuts. The point of it is to set up your opponent to try and make a big call on you when he has a marginal hand.

AEKDBet 10-03-2005 05:05 PM

Re: 5/10 nl, Top set JJJ
 
[ QUOTE ]
6 handed 5/10 nl
my hand: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

folded to me on button (1475), SB folds BB calls (covers)

flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (pot: 75)
SB checks, Hero bets 75, SB makes it 200 all day, I make it 500 all day, SB calls


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SB makes it 200, you PUSH.


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