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Nick M 06-02-2005 03:40 AM

ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
This is a 27 PS Turbo...Both aggressive players.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t600 (3 handed) converter

Hero (t2385)
Button (t4993)
SB (t6122)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t1000) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t1800</font>

HERO????

igotBlackJak 06-02-2005 03:46 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
say GH and walk away right?

pergesu 06-02-2005 03:50 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
Opponent overbets the pot on a two-suited, paired board, with one card higher than your high card...you've got no draw, obvious or backdoor...what part of this is interesting?

jeffraider 06-02-2005 03:50 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
I may be high but how can this be anything but a fold?

treeofwisdom7 06-02-2005 03:51 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
is there something were not getting , something you left out, or am i drunk and dont know it.

if you didnt have reason to push preflop you wouldnt have reason to push on the flop.

curtains 06-02-2005 03:51 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
I don't think calling the flop is so terrible against the right kind of player.

Also if you think there is maybe a 20-25% chance they will fold to a raise preflop, then you should move allin preflop I think.

curtains 06-02-2005 03:52 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Opponent overbets the pot on a two-suited, paired board, with one card higher than your high card...you've got no draw, obvious or backdoor...what part of this is interesting?

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Because some players would check this flop with a king or a five. They also would have raised preflop with an ace or pair. Against these players, it becomes correct to call, especially since you have so few chips and the blinds are so high.

(btw you should probably push preflop, because believe it or not, there is a decent chance that you will end up folding the best hand with queen high on a lot of flops.)

pergesu 06-02-2005 03:57 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
Aight, so you're getting ~1.5-1 that he's bluffing, and have 0 FE. I don't see any viable play other than folding. Push the next hand, steal some blinds.

curtains 06-02-2005 03:59 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
[ QUOTE ]
Aight, so you're getting ~1.5-1 that he's bluffing, and have 0 FE. I don't see any viable play other than folding. Push the next hand, steal some blinds.

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Yeah and he might be bluffing a lot more than necessary to make the call correct. There are some players that you can pigeonhole well enough to know they can't have an ace/king or five here, or at least know that the chances are good enough to make it worth calling.

Again I would push preflop, because I don't want to be given the chance to fold the best hand postflop.

DasLeben 06-02-2005 04:26 AM

Re: ITM SS Post Flop hand...pretty interesting actually.
 
Eh, I might try to take this down preflop. In fact, with these blinds, I do that just about every time. I dunno, I could be wrong.


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