Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

"I'll save the results for now so that the morning crew can give me more of the berating that I deserve."

Morning crew is here - Absolutely terrible fold! Call or cap, probably doesn't matter much. My guess is that there will be some major chilling out on the turn. You should be able to see the river for only 1 BB if you don't fill.

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

It's boring I know, but does anyone else fold this preflop?

RH

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

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It's boring I know, but does anyone else fold this preflop?

RH

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No.

In most PP poker games, I would play this UTG, so I'm definitely not folding on the button with limpers.

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

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I think the flop play is a pretty easy call

But what happens on the turn if Monkey plays on and a blank or another [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] falls?

Does he bet out if checked to him?
How many bets does he call?
One bet to him, call, capped on the way back, what now?

With the huge pot how many bets can he call on the river if he doesnt fill up? 0,1, more?

These are probably just simple pot odds questions, but its late and I am tired.

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I just read this item yesterday:

Bet, Raise or Fold

I wonder if the author would take his own advice here - cap both flop and turn?

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

My two-cents. On the flop, I think you are correct to assume that you are behind. However, it gets to you (11SB) you have to call (3) to see next card , at this point you have 7 outs; however the next card can probably do nothing but help you; if it misses it gives you (10) outs for the river (3-tens, 3-twos, 1-four, and 3-Xs), if it hits you have a FH. Also Even if you assume that only the BB will call the raise, you are not that far off from what you need for pot + implied odds, even to see (1) more card (As it is obvious that if you hit at least (2) people will be calling your bet.)

I think you have to see this through. That said I am not sure about capping, it is possible that the SB might fold and I am not sure that we want that. Also it is doubtful that all three of those guys would give you a free card. Indeed if you hit on the turn, you want them betting into you.

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

I'm not as experienced as most here, but think this was a pretty ghastly fold. Cap the flop; if another diamond falls, call (don't raise). You've got more than enough equity against everything else but a higher set, which happens occasionally, but not often enough to fold.

Rob

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I just read this item yesterday:

Bet, Raise or Fold


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Wow, that article is just full of horrible advice.

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

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I was positive the board wouldn't pair.

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Oh. My.

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

You CANNOT FOLD THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You have so many outs to a full house it's not even funny.

Re: Flopped set on a suited flop: Cap of fold?
 

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Good to see someone actually make a "big laydown" on these boards. Instead, everyone is always raising and reraising with hands that don't seem to deserve it. You flopped a pretty big hand here with your set of 4s, but with all that action one of them has to have a flush (and if not at least a good draw) so you are almost certainly behind. You're going to lose this hand more often than you win, so time to get out while the getting is cheep right.

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You're going to lose EVERY SINGLE hand you play 3-way or better more than you win. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

-d