expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

expert is in is SB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].

UTG calls, a tough player raises, expert calls and big blind calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Expert checks, BB checks, UTG checks, tough player bets, expert calls...

is this call an expert play or lapse in judgement?

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

I know that if you said you saw a random guy do it, everyone would say it was bad.

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

It will likely win you a small/medium pot or lose you a big one.

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

folding >> raising >>>>>>>>> calling here, IMO.

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

It could be a good play if he made it to check-raise the turn to make the tough guy fold, knowing that the chance the tough guy would fold is hight enough to make the play worth it.

Soh

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

There are still 2 guys to act, and a lot of bad turn cards to come. Looks like a fold.

But depending on the other players and expert's image it could be an expert play....however I doubt it!

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

Taken by itself, it looks terrible to me. If this play is to venture to the expert side of the spectrum, then it has to be used to set something very specific up later in the hand against very specific opponents. It just looks like it's way too vulnerable a hand to be calling with.

It will be difficult to play no matter what Hero does though. I guess the expertness of playing it comes in the ability for one to play this hand profitiably at all, and to make the correct, difficult decisions a majority of the time.

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This expert play would be to fold preflop.

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

This is pretty bad, unless there are some very specific reads involved, but at this point, I'm not even sure what reads you'd need to make this an "expert" play.

Re: expert play or lapse in judgement?
 

being an expert doesn't necessarily mean playing at your top game every hand.

this hand though is fairly far from i would consider an "expert"'s top game. so much so that its puzzling...or amazing and i dont understand.

Barron