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Sightless 08-08-2005 04:27 PM

6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and help):
 
I saw a a guy on my buddy list who was a very poor player playing on a 6 max table with an avg pot of 6BB... so I sat down in hopes of winning some money from him, the whole table was very loose,and seemed to call with anything and if tehy would flop soemthign they would call you down ... If anyone can help me with these hands I'd greatly apreciate it, id greatly apreaciate it if someone would point to my mistakes as i ams ure there are plenty of them, probably playing too weak

Hand #1
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP checks, CO checks.

River: (7 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, MP folds, CO calls, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Qs 7s (two pair, sevens and twos).
CO has 9h 4h (two pair, fours and twos).
Outcome: UTG wins 9 BB. </font>

Hand #2
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

River: (8.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.75 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qs Qd (two pair, queens and threes).
Button has 7d Kh (two pair, kings and threes).
Outcome: Button wins 10.75 BB. </font>

Hand #3
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, SB folds.

Turn: (4 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button calls.

River: (6 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Final Pot: 6 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 7d 8d (one pair, eights).
Button has Jc Td (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 6 BB. </font>

Hand #4
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, MP folds, Button calls.

Flop: (11 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (7 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, Button checks.

River: (7 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, Button calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ad Kh (one pair, fives).
Button has 9c 9h (two pair, nines and fives).
Outcome: Button wins 9 BB. </font>

hand #5
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (12 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls.

River: (13.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Ad Jh (one pair, aces).
CO has Jc Kh (straight, ace high).
Outcome: CO wins 17.50 BB. </font>


Hand #6
Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls.

Turn: (10 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

River: (20 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: 20 BB

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
SB has 9c Ts (straight, jack high).
Hero has Kc Jc (one pair, jacks).
Outcome: SB wins 20 BB. </font>

Buccaneer 08-08-2005 05:46 PM

Re: 6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and he
 
Hand 1 - you are drawing to the nut flush. You have pot odds, I would have bet.

Hand 2 - I call the river if you think you can win this hand &gt; every 8.75 times.

Hand 3 - I get out on the turn. You have middle pair and there are lots of cards out there that will beat you.

Hand 4 - You miss the flop. You have Ace high. Villain calls your bet so he propably has hit something or holds a PP and that something beats Ace high.

Hand 5 - Villian likes the river enough to bet. Do you believe he has the straight? I think you can discount the flush because he probably would have bet the turn.

Hand 6 - You have top pair but villian likes his hand too. Maybe a raise while it is cheap will buy you the info you need. How ever you play it I get out when I see the excitement on the turn.

That's my story and I am sticking to it.

GrunchCan 08-08-2005 06:23 PM

Re: 6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and he
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 1 - you are drawing to the nut flush. You have pot odds, I would have bet.

[/ QUOTE ]

Why are you betting?

SCfuji 08-08-2005 06:32 PM

Re: 6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and help):
 
hand 1 fine
hand 2 fine
hand 3 white flag goes up on the turn
hand 4 white flag goes up on the river
hand 5 fine
hand 6 dont cap the turn. theres way too many players in the pot acting after the sb for him to be effing around.

aces_dad 08-08-2005 06:41 PM

Re: 6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and help):
 
I think you'd get more responses posting less hands, and asking a more specific question than 6 hands requesting general feedback.

Anyway I like taking the free card on the turn in hand one, against 4 people I don't see your IU A taking this pot.

Hand 2 is fine, you just got sucked out on.

Hand 3 is okay, kind of passive for button to not bet or raise that flop and the turn bet is taking a chance but glad you didn't fire again on the river as I don't see him letting go here very often.

Hand 4, once you check the turn and show weakness, you induce any weak hand with any pair to call the river. Either fire again on the turn or after checking the turn just check the river.

Hand 5 not sure I love the flop 3 bet into a pf raiser. The river bet from CO is unexpected and leads us to that sinking feeling that something just rivered us.

On hand 6 what does SB go to war here? Only TPTK or better? I like to note if people do this with less than that, otherwise without this read, you shouldn't be capping this turn here.

deception5 08-08-2005 06:49 PM

Re: 6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and help):
 
First off, reads are crucial, especially at 6-max. It makes a big difference in these hands which players are aggressive/passive/etc and will completely change the advice you are given.

With no reads:

1.) Fine
2.) Good - unlucky.
3.) Good
4.) Check the river. Depending on who bets you can consider calling if one folds as you need to catch a bluff around 10% of the time. Betting may fold everyone, but someone who calls your bet is beating you so you don't gain anything. Reads are important.
5.) Getting such good odds that if a call is a mistake it's miniscule.
6.) I would not cap the turn, but it looks like the opponent was out of money so it's probably fine.

Sightless 08-08-2005 06:51 PM

Re: 6 hands played on the same table, can some take pitty on me and help):
 
thank you all very much, all these hands happened within minutes of each other, and i thougth id post em here); in the last hand it doesnt show but i went all in on the turn... had no cash left

again thank you all for advice/criticism


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