A River Play Question... Very Thin Three-Bet?
Villain seems on the tightish side but I don't have much of a read as I just sat down.
The question is pretty obvious... Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero checks. Flop: (2.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (3.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (5.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero??? |
Re: A River Play Question... Very Thin Three-Bet?
Yes I'd 3-bet, I don't think its that thin either.
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Re: A River Play Question... Very Thin Three-Bet?
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Villain seems on the tightish side but I don't have much of a read as I just sat down. The question is pretty obvious... Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (9 handed) converter Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. UTG calls, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero checks. Flop: (2.33 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls. Turn: (3.16 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls. River: (5.16 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero??? [/ QUOTE ] QJ is very likely here. |
Re: A River Play Question... Very Thin Three-Bet?
Ugh.
He could've simply caught his king, with KQ/KJ. However, it's hard to put him on a range, really, since his flop bet was quite likely just a stab. I don't think I could find a fold if I faced a cap (and QJ isn't out of the question at all, and meanwhile even K9 can't be ruled out), so I would probably just call. I'm not claiming this is necessarily best. It's just probably what I would do. |
Re: A River Play Question... Very Thin Three-Bet?
My major problem here is that I realized that if I get capped there is such a tiny chance I'm winning here. This is an odd hand where, given the action, the strength indicated by a river raise, a river three-bet, and a river cap are all very different.
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My major problem here is that I realized that if I get capped there is such a tiny chance I'm winning here. This is an odd hand where, given the action, the strength indicated by a river raise, a river three-bet, and a river cap are all very different. [/ QUOTE ] I agree. A 3-bet may be best, but I just don't think I could fold to a cap. And if I couldn't fold to a cap, a 3-bet might not be best anymore. |
Re: A River Play Question... Very Thin Three-Bet?
I may be in the minority, but I don't 3-bet that.
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My major problem here is that I realized that if I get capped there is such a tiny chance I'm winning here. This is an odd hand where, given the action, the strength indicated by a river raise, a river three-bet, and a river cap are all very different. [/ QUOTE ] Wow... A tightish villain limps utg. A tightish villain bet the flop and calls the raise. OK. Villain, with a hand worse than 2nd pair, ought have a hard time calling the turn without a made hand or QJ, specifically (J9?). I just don't get a 3 bet, here. A river 3 bet has no fold equity (other than J9). I think your lost here, villain holding KT, K9 or QJ. |
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A river 3 bet has no fold equity [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure why you mention fold equity. If we're 3-betting, it's for value. This is rather odd though. If we 3-bet, we're pretty much hoping he has KQ, KJ, or T9s. I don't think these are likely enough, and the very last thing I'd want to do is put in 4 bets with this hand. So I think we're good for a call. |
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This is an odd hand where, given the action, the strength indicated by a river raise, a river three-bet, and a river cap are all very different. [/ QUOTE ] But the river cap means you're fuct. |
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