Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

I take it you are folding any turn that doesnt help your hand?

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

Yes unless you change the read to "donks all draws" then I'd call again with the gutterball + overs and decide what to do on the river.

-DeathDonkey

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

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I almost always just call on these flops now. But that's what I'd do with aces too.

-DeathDonkey

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I feel this in a big way, and it's how I have thought for quite a while, but recently I've started to have a change of heart. Realistically I just don't know if the randos at 10/20 even notice that... I mean at 100/200 smooth-calling flop might be respected but here he's just gonna fire again at the turn whereas he's probably gonna slow down to a flop raise. I'm starting to think that unless you have a history, or the player seems to be adapting to you and is looking to bet-3bet flop, it's probably just best to manipulate him with your flop raise and buy free cards.

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

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I almost always just call on these flops now. But that's what I'd do with aces too.

-DeathDonkey

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I call these a lot, too. But the read "He seems pretty passive other than that, and havent seen him 3 bet a raise, or redonk the turn" makes me like a raise here.

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

His inability to redonk the turn is the key here.

If he's the kind to donk with a made hand of some kind, read your raise as being a freecard play, and bet the turn, then the flop raise is no good. But that's not the case here, so the flop raise and turn check are beauties.

I would check any turn that doesn't give me a hand. What about everyone else?

Guy.

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

humm, if hes betting good draws, middle pair, or top pair, hes way ahead of you here until the river, maybe your the one donking, anyways, i think your play is -ev, your getting over involved to draw to 9 possible tainted outs...your titles awsome though
also, this guys a fish, why not just wait until u have better bait to catch him instead of making iffy moves?

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

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Yes unless you change the read to "donks all draws" then I'd raise the turn and take a free showdown with my K-high unimproved. .

-DeathDonkey

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FYP.

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

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Yes unless you change the read to "donks all draws" then I'd raise the turn and take a free showdown with my K-high unimproved. .

-DeathDonkey

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FYP.

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Hot. I like it.

-DeathDonkey

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

even a turn Ace?

Re: \"I get wet at the tought of donk betting\" ---Villian
 

ace on turn means less likely they have ace high to beat your king high