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UCLAseetoK 12-26-2005 06:49 AM

PF raise with QJs?
 
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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $3.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero (poster) raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP2 folds, Hero calls, SB calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (20.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Final Pot: 32.50 BB

Should I be raising this hand PF after I post in the CO?

Also, any flames on the way the hand was played, seemed like I had odds to be calling on all streets (be it implied or immediate).

UCLAseetoK 12-26-2005 06:53 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
I should add that the blinds were loose passives as were the limpers, and that button was a TAG.

Although if table was different, should I still raise this PF for some sort of equity edge? I was never quite clear about raising PF in multiway pots with certain hands (like j10s, mid pockets, etc.)

istewart 12-26-2005 06:53 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
Nicely played.

12-26-2005 07:07 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
Nice catch on the river. This hand sucks on all streets.

Jake (The Snake) 12-26-2005 07:19 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
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This hand sucks on all streets.

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If by sucks you mean played well, then I agree.

12-26-2005 07:21 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
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If by sucks you mean played well, then I agree.

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Actually, the river was just fine.

12-26-2005 07:24 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
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If by sucks you mean played well, then I agree.

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Actually, the river was just fine.

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Ok then, what's wrong with the rest of the hand? I certainly can't see it.

12-26-2005 07:30 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
I think the raise PF is ok with 3 limpers. Big pots are nice to drag when you hit with suited paint.

And the hand is played alright. doesnt get much better on the river. Do you fold if you dont pick up the double gut shot on the turn tho?

Nice hand, better river, even better pot.

12-26-2005 07:34 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
Sorry, I messed up. I just woke up.

1. I didn't notice that Hero posted in the CO.

2. I thought that he called those bets COLD (which would be kind of questionable) on both the flop and the turn. But he didn't, obviously.

Again, I'm sorry. I should've studied the hand better before I posted. It's just fine.

shant 12-26-2005 07:34 AM

Re: PF raise with QJs?
 
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If by sucks you mean played well, then I agree.

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Actually, the river was just fine.

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So are you misreading the turn card and what it does for his hand?


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