Flop play with a big draw.
 

I feel I have no chance of making either opponent fold on this flop. I was uncertain how to play my draw, should I be capping this flop for value? sb opens light but likes to go to showdown. I don't have stats on UTG, but my player notes show he likes to limp in early position with big pairs, and then go crazy on the flop.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, 3 folds, <font color="red">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises</font>, <font color="red">UTG 3-bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets</font>, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (10.50 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">SB bets</font>, Hero folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

you have an interesting dilemna here because you are trading between value on the flop and being able to checkraise the field on the turn. I often just call these 3-bets so I can C/R when I do hit, even though there is certainly value on the flop. meh.

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

capping the flop doesn't necessarily stop you from bet/3betting the turn if you hit. Also, a nonzero percenatage of the time if you hit on the turn and you check utg will check behind too which sucks. Finally, capping the flop will sometimes scare utg into checking behind on the turn with a made hand.

I cap flopper.

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

Cap flop for value...

You can lead turn here. But if you know UTG bets then you can check/call. This way as it played out you get SB inthere aswell. if the turn didn't pair you almost have equity to raise the turn since you'll hit around 32% of the time.

To bad you didn't hit with this monster

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

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capping the flop doesn't necessarily stop you from bet/3betting the turn if you hit. Also, a nonzero percenatage of the time if you hit on the turn and you check utg will check behind too which sucks. Finally, capping the flop will sometimes scare utg into checking behind on the turn with a made hand.

I cap flopper.

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Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

I prefer hero's line here because capping the flop is likely to lose the SB, whom has little chance of winning if you make your hand. You have the potential of picking up an extra 2.5 bb's that way with little loss in opportunity. You're very unlikely to lose if you hit.

Pitcher

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

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I prefer hero's line here because capping the flop is likely to lose the SB,

[/ QUOTE ]jesus christ.
split HUSH already so i stop ending up in $3/$6 threads.

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

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I prefer hero's line here because capping the flop is likely to lose the SB,

[/ QUOTE ]jesus christ.
split HUSH already so i stop ending up in $3/$6 threads.

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haha

the hell happened with the split anyways?

Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

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capping the flop doesn't necessarily stop you from bet/3betting the turn if you hit. Also, a nonzero percenatage of the time if you hit on the turn and you check utg will check behind too which sucks. Finally, capping the flop will sometimes scare utg into checking behind on the turn with a made hand.

I cap flopper.

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Re: Flop play with a big draw.
 

The only reasons I can see not to cap the flop with a comfortable 50%+ equity here are if you think you might fold a player (not likely, especially with your read) and if you feel it might telegraph your draw (not something I'm concerned about with this action, since action will almost certainly slow down with a flush card unless you're up against another flush (and then you need to worry anyway) and you can probably c/r the straight, whether or not you cap.

Rest of the hand plays itself, though I'd give serious thought to folding if the SB raised the turn and faced you with 2 cold, when the board paired.