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12-22-2005 04:31 PM

when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
10 handed 30/60 party

I'm on the bb w/ AcJs

3rd position is a 12/9/1.8 raises, 4th position calls (no stats), 5th position cold calls (27/11/2.9), I call

flop is Ad Tc 9c, I check, 3rd and 4th position check, 5th position bets, I c/r with top pair and the backdoor nut flush draw and backdoor straight draw, 2 folds, 5th position 3 bets, I call

turn is Jd, I c/r and am 3 bet again.....

I have odds to call here, but can I really fold the river unimproved in a pot this big?..... what about if a 3rd club hits, can I fold then?

12-22-2005 04:54 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
you should have popped him back on the turn

Jeffage 12-22-2005 04:58 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
I would have just bet out on the turn to avoid being three bet by a monster here and to ensure I don't give a dangerous free card.

Jeff

12-22-2005 05:13 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
and what if he raises, calldown?

jetsonsdogcanfly 12-22-2005 05:25 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
You can absolutely not fold this hand. Pretty much any line that doesn't include folding is fine. An ag of 2.9 is very, very high, especially with a vpip of 27.

12-22-2005 06:56 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
jetsonsogcanfly has it right IMO. He is too aggressive. He could be 3 betting the turn with AK-A9 amongst other hands.

Folding isn't smart, that is assuming you don't have a great read on him.

I like the turn check raise. The villian is overly aggressive and, with that aggression level, is more likely to be betting his draws. Even though this situation didn't turn out well for you, long term it should do fine.

Dazarath 12-22-2005 07:43 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
I like it so far. I don't like a fold. You don't think AT or A9 is in his given range?

Jeffage 12-22-2005 08:09 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
Yup.

Jeff

hexag1 12-22-2005 10:17 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
call down. you may be beh
ind, but i think you are most likely looking at AK or A10 here.

SA125 12-22-2005 11:01 PM

Re: when protecting the bb goes horribly wrong
 
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I would have just bet out on the turn to avoid being three bet by a monster here and to ensure I don't give a dangerous free card.

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