Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP3 (t1480)
Hero (t1490)
Button (t1470)
SB (t1690)
BB (t1400)
UTG (t1360)
UTG+1 (t1610)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t80) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t20</font>, BB calls t20, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t140</font>, SB folds, BB folds, MP2 calls t60.

Turn: (t400) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t240</font>, MP2 calls t240.

River: (t880) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP2 checks, Hero?

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

I bet because I like chips. I'm not sure what more of a comment I can leave.

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

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I bet because I like chips. I'm not sure what more of a comment I can leave.

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yeah you're right, its a stupid question. I post stupid hands a lot to punish myself so I dont make dumb mistakes anymore. sorry for the waste.

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

It is usually possible to figure out at least some possibilities as to why the question is being asked. Here betting seems very straightforward. If oppo has played an overpair or a set this way, then you just pay him off. He's played it in at least a somewhat funny way, however. You can't spend too much time second guessing yourself about it.

Isn't it a lot more likely that your opponents has a hand that is paying you off than is trapping you?

If there is some kind of subtle point that I'm missing here, I look forward to reading about it later on.

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

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I bet because I like chips. I'm not sure what more of a comment I can leave.

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Pooh74 was hungover from the NYC ghet-together [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

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It is usually possible to figure out at least some possibilities as to why the question is being asked. Here betting seems very straightforward. If oppo has played an overpair or a set this way, then you just pay him off. He's played it in at least a somewhat funny way, however. You can't spend too much time second guessing yourself about it.

Isn't it a lot more likely that your opponents has a hand that is paying you off than is trapping you?

If there is some kind of subtle point that I'm missing here, I look forward to reading about it later on.

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yeah, you're right. The issue is, when he playing the draw, JT or whatever, he's not calling the river bet. When he is playing the overpair/set, he is putting me in and/or Im losing chips on the river.

The reason this was such a brainfart for me was that there is no way he plays an overpair like this nor a set...almost never.

A9 type hands MORE than make up for any "monsters in the closet" type hands here and its a huge leak when I check behind here. I think there are some subtle differences that you could make to this hand that would make me check behind, but the board pairing shouldnt have scared me at all. A "Q" appearing is a good example where I would feel better about checking the r.

Thanks for the ridicule though

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I bet because I like chips. I'm not sure what more of a comment I can leave.

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Pooh74 is hungover from the NYC ghet-together [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

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FYP...good "read" though

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

I voted for value bet here too. I dont think its a bad hand to post though.

I like raising a lot more on the flop with a hand like this - probably closer to 300 total. The original raiser is going to call your minraise almost 100% of the time. By raising small, youre giving cheap cards. I like to make them pay dearly to draw with a hand like yours and I dont mind if they fold to my reraise.

Re: Who passes on the river value bet here?
 

I voted to check behind because so few hands you beat will call a bet. Basically only A9, T9s, J9s if villain is decent. What buyin?

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I voted to check behind because so few hands you beat will call a bet. Basically only A9, T9s, J9s if villain is decent. What buyin?

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sorry...27 stars turbo.